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To: PatrickHenry

"anthropic principle" hmmmm.. So the universe is uniquely oriented to allow life. (In addition to he cosmological constant, there are over ten constant numbers, for which a small change in any of them, would preclude life). Anthropomorphism is the poet's license to apply human qualities to a moon, a stream, an animal or tree. Seems to be a humanistic, secular bias here, I guess Hawking wants to be published as much as anybody else. If had called it the "genesis principle," even Mr. Hawking would be ostracized.
On the seventh day he rested, and it was good.


5 posted on 07/04/2006 4:58:17 AM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: mission9

Hawking is not troubled by the Genesis principle. That is where his line of reasoning leads. At creation God dismissed all alternative realities except this one.
Hawking has always brilliantly argued for Creation by Design and not by blind chance.
This, once again, puts the nail in the coffin of that old mummy, Darwin. Now to dismantle anti-theistic evolution as "scientific."


6 posted on 07/04/2006 5:11:18 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: mission9

The various anthropic principles are a pretty complicated subject, Hawking discusses them somewhat in the link I posted; Wikipedia has something better, probably.

One thing to keep in mind is that if there are billions of different universes with different constants and physical laws (which is a very real possibility) there would be several with the correct "settings" for life, basically randomly. However, those would be the only universes with intelligent life that could contemplate the unique settings of their universe, and they'd all incorrectly perceive that their universe was specially "set up" for them.


10 posted on 07/04/2006 5:28:37 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: mission9
"anthropic principle" hmmmm.. So the universe is uniquely oriented to allow life. (In addition to he cosmological constant, there are over ten constant numbers, for which a small change in any of them, would preclude life). Anthropomorphism is the poet's license to apply human qualities to a moon, a stream, an animal or tree. Seems to be a humanistic, secular bias here, I guess Hawking wants to be published as much as anybody else. If had called it the "genesis principle," even Mr. Hawking would be ostracized.

I'm willing to "ostracize" any scientist who invokes the "anthropic principle," and your implication that Hawkins has surrendered his "science" to the PC Gods is appropriate.

To invoke this "anthropic principle" is to argue (without any data) that the universe is purposeful.

Regards...R.

30 posted on 07/04/2006 1:43:04 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: mission9
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32 posted on 07/04/2006 9:40:40 PM PDT by onedoug
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