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To: Tokra

That life changes and adapts is not unique to the theory of evolution.

A creator would also create life with the ability to 'change and adapt'.

The truth is, there is no evidence that uniquely supports an evolutionary model; therefore, you cannot say that evolution is a 'fact'. It is merely 'defined truth'.

That is, the definition of evolution has been carefully crafted to be consistent w/ the evidence. Unfortunately, this has produced a definition that is also consistent w/ a created biology that is adaptive and 'evolution' has lost any ability to be falsified wrt creation.

In fact, evolution has been *defined* to be consistent with a genome that is in decline. After all, a population that is accumulating deleterious genetic mutations is also 'changing'.

Adaptation, meanwhile, is merely a process of sorting existing information for that which best 'fits' one environment over another. Nothing inconsistent w/ creation there either.

A creator would also create life with the ability to 'change and adapt'.

Perhaps you don't understand that evolution has merely been 'defined' to be true and true believers like yourself are not able to understand that this same 'definition' has also made evolution consistent with a created bioligy that is in decline.

How can you pretend that one 'defined truth' is superior to another when there is no unique evidence?


74 posted on 07/03/2006 12:17:59 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: GourmetDan
Perhaps you don't understand that evolution has merely been 'defined' to be true and true believers like yourself are not able to understand that this same 'definition' has also made evolution consistent with a created bioligy that is in decline.

I believe that this lack of understanding is a result of absolutely no evidence existing to support this claim.
75 posted on 07/03/2006 12:32:07 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: GourmetDan
How can you pretend that one 'defined truth' is superior to another when there is no unique evidence?

There's plenty of evidence. When people can look at vestigal legs on a snake and still claim that it is not "proof" of evolution - then there is nothing that will ever prove it to them. What would your explanation of legs on a snake be??

I know someone who seriously believes the world is flat. All the photos of the earth from space will not convince him. To him they are simply optical illusions. I don't see much difference in him and those who look at evidence of evolution (like vestigal legs on a snake) and refuse to believe what they see, or explain it away with a lot of talk.

I suppose if God Almighty came down on a cloud of Glory and told creationists that He DID create evolution as a means of changing life forms - maybe THEN some of you would finally accept it, though I have my doubts.

76 posted on 07/03/2006 12:39:31 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: GourmetDan
The truth is, there is no evidence that uniquely supports an evolutionary model; therefore, you cannot say that evolution is a 'fact'. It is merely 'defined truth'.

The truth is - you're wrong. There HAS been definitive proof of observed evolution. A new fruit fly species (not just a different breed of fruit fly - but an entire new species)was evolved in the laboratory in 1971. Check out the research yourself - then close your eyes and tell yourself that it is all an illusion.

T. Dobzhansky, & O. Pavlovsky, "An experimentally created incipient species of Drosophilia", Nature 23, P. 289-292 (1971)

96 posted on 07/03/2006 1:18:10 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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