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To: b_sharp
Gene duplication followed by an indel can create a modified version of a feature. An example of this is the 125 million year old gene duplication event in the common ancestor of Arabidopsis thaliana (mustard plant) and the Antirrhinum majus (snapdragon) in which the AG gene in the A. thaliana and the PLE gene in the A. majus have both diverged from the copy and each other.

Poor guy. Still doesn't know the difference between an observed gene duplication and an assumed one. That's the problem w/ these guys. Their imagination is transferred into reality in their minds and they think that everyone else has to accept it.

296 posted on 07/05/2006 8:11:25 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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It seems GourmetDan believes science can only be done with direct observation using our 5 senses. GourmetDan. virtually everything in science is the result of indirect measurements through various techniques and instruments. I suppose you believe that the speedometer on you car or a cop's radar gun is an inferred measurement based on assumptions. I'd love to see the expression on a cop's face after he pulls you over for speeding and you tell him he's wrong because his measurements are assumptions and inferred facts!


300 posted on 07/05/2006 8:22:15 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: GourmetDan
"Poor guy. Still doesn't know the difference between an observed gene duplication and an assumed one. That's the problem w/ these guys. Their imagination is transferred into reality in their minds and they think that everyone else has to accept it."

I take it you wouldn't be interested in the rational behind believing this instance of gene duplication? You would rather just hand wave it and all other inferential methodology away so it doesn't bother you.

This means of course that we should not believe that large meteors occasionally hit the earth, that super volcanoes have in the past caused massive destruction, that geologic strata have a chronological order, that layers of rock crack and are refilled, that intrusions, uplift, and fold occur, and that paternity can be determined through DNA comparisons. Hell, we might as well dump all of quantum physics.

DNA can be read like a book. We don't understand all of it yet but have learned much in the last 50 years. Part of what we have learned is how to recognize events that have modified the genome in unexpected ways. The reason I mentioned the number of geological features and processes in the paragraph above is because there are parallels in the way the physical data are analyzed in the two systems.

I suggest you investigate the methods used to determine events within the genome before you brush it aside.

311 posted on 07/05/2006 11:07:23 AM PDT by b_sharp (There is always one more mess to clean up.)
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