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Baby found dead in vehicle (left all day in a minivan)
Grand Forks Herald ^ | June 29, 2006 | Lisa Gibson

Posted on 06/29/2006 8:59:40 AM PDT by charming_harmonica

A 5-month-old baby died in a minivan Wednesday after the mother apparently forgot to drop the child off at day care.

The tragedy was discovered about 5:30 p.m. outside the Wonder Years 2 day care. The baby's mother stopped at the day care after work to pick up the child and was told by staff that the baby had not been dropped off. She realized then that the baby had been in her minivan all day.

"The mother had forgotten to drop off the child at day care in the morning," said Curt Kreun, owner of Wonder Years 2. "She actually came in the building to pick up the child and then realized what had happened."

The child was in a car seat in the back of the vehicle, according to Sgt. Jeff Burgess of the Grand Forks Police Department. A Wonder Years 2 staff member made the 911 call, according to Kreun.

Staff members had taken the baby out of the van and started CPR before the ambulance arrived. Kreun said he reached the scene about 6 p.m. and emergency personnel already had gotten the word from Altru to cease resuscitation.

"The child had probably passed away a while before she got to the day care," Kreun said.

Kreun, who has been in the child care business for years, said near-tragedies happen all too often.

"I know people who have gotten to work and realized they forgot to drop off their kids and had to go back."

Kreun said it would have been impossible for passersby to see the baby in the van, which had tinted windows.

"I walked around that van about 14 times after they left, and you would not have been able to see in there," he said.

The incident is under investigation by the Criminal Investigation Bureau, but police told Kreun they didn't expect charges to be filed.

"They're looking at it as a tragic accident," he said. "This is by far the most devastating thing I've had to witness."

"There are no arrests being made tonight," said Burgess. "I can tell you that."

The cause of death had not yet been confirmed Wednesday night, but a likely cause of death in cases where children are left in hot vehicles is hyperthermia.

The temperature in a parked car rises very rapidly, even when the windows are left open a crack. Studies show that the temperature can rise as much as 50 degrees in an hour.

Wednesday's high was 79 degrees, so the temperature in the van easily could have exceeded 100 degrees.


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To: visualops

One safeguard would be to develop the habit of always putting your briefcase or pocketbook on the floor of the back seat. Then, when you get out of the vehicle at work, you would have to open the rear door to get it.

Baby still there? Surprise . . . but alive.


61 posted on 06/29/2006 9:43:31 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: billygoatgruff

"Why again, do they have to be put in the backseat, out of sight, out of mind?"

Because it's "safer".

As a kid of the late '50s, everyone my age grew up rocketing around the car like a BB in an empty coffee can, not strapped in like we were astronauts on a space launch. If we died in the car it was from the force of an accident, but never from being left behind!


62 posted on 06/29/2006 9:43:58 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: billygoatgruff

I agree with you. I know I am going to get flame city on this one, but do you remember the Simpsons cartoon intro with Maggie in the front seat next to Marge? When baby seats first came out, they were used in the front seat next to mama. Good parent child bonding, too. Only some MALE who has real jealousy issues could have come up with the baby-facing-backwards-on-another-seat-row set up we have now. Now children have to be teenagers before they can ride up front next to mom. Kids have to be in car seats older each year. When it comes to car seats, I am a libertarian.


63 posted on 06/29/2006 9:44:27 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: Cicero
"A lot All of this is the result of government regulation."

Airbags don't save lives, they kill in various ways. People are often killed in accidents that are not even serious by the airbag. The media refuse to print the facts.

64 posted on 06/29/2006 9:45:06 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Gone GF; Cicero

My husband witnessed an accident in which the mother had been lovingly holding her baby in the passenger seat (before the days of seat belts.) The mother died, asking where her baby was. She was spared the sight of him in the glove box, but my husband wasn't.


65 posted on 06/29/2006 9:45:57 AM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: Gone GF

These stories are depressingly frequent in the summer, but I don't recall any of them discussing the parent's politics.


66 posted on 06/29/2006 9:46:06 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: charming_harmonica

I understand you CANNOT neglect your kid. I see this extremly unfortunate. But I feel pitty rather than anger. Looks to me that most people in this thread are lucky enough to live apart from society, and that they don't feel the pressure of having two incomes to pay the bills (and I mean just the regular bills, not for luxury items) or that anyone who is not happily married with the first spouse is evil. So I assume that the kids of all those parents here never ever had an accident. Every accident (and ACCIDENTS HAPPEN) can be seen as 'this leftist parent who doesn't take care of the kid'. Come on!. The miracle really is to reach adulthood.


67 posted on 06/29/2006 9:46:23 AM PDT by angelanddevil2
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To: RinaseaofDs; Clara Lou
"It would be a real enhancement.

To government power you mean?????

68 posted on 06/29/2006 9:46:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Not sure that would work. Most people leave car seats in the car and just take out baby.


69 posted on 06/29/2006 9:47:36 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: charming_harmonica
"I can't imagine how you could possibly leave a baby in the car all day...so sad"

I can. And I believe even a conscientious parent could do it. The greatest tragedy is what it will do to the person who "forgot" and the family. The baby is not the least bit concerned at this point.
70 posted on 06/29/2006 9:49:24 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
I am not a father (hope to be someday), but isn't your baby kinda the center of your universe. How could you forget such a thing?

We are told to put the baby in the back seat for safety reasons. The more I hear this, I think it's flawed. People put the baby in the back seat, usually behind the driver and forget they are there. Wouldn't it be safer to put the child up front where the parent sees them?

As many times as this has happened, why hasn't someone come up with an alarm that tells you the baby is still there. We have a ping ping ping if we forget to take the keys out of the ignition, and it also pings if the headlights are on. How about a ping when the seat belt is still fastened. There should be some sort of alarm in these cases.

Just thinking out loud.

71 posted on 06/29/2006 9:49:25 AM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - church and Grandma's house.)
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To: Dixiekraut
But any a-hole can be a parent.

It's harder to acquire a pet than a child.

72 posted on 06/29/2006 9:49:49 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: charming_harmonica
apparently forgot to drop the child off at day care

Ten to one odds she was talking on a cell phone all the way to work.

73 posted on 06/29/2006 9:50:16 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: sportutegrl
Now children have to be teenagers before they can ride up front next to mom. Kids have to be in car seats older each year.

The minimum height at which a child is allowed to ride without a booster seat in my state, is only two inches shorter than I am.

74 posted on 06/29/2006 9:50:20 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 18-22)
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To: Texas Mom

Take the opportunity to visit the Kids in Cars web-site. How many times does this have to happen?


75 posted on 06/29/2006 9:50:48 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: pax_et_bonum

I find it very interesting that people will not judge a person for an action that one could imagine doing. My theory about why judges are more lenient on drunk drivers, than drug addicts, for example, is because judges are more likely to drive after drinking, than to smoke crack.

Forgetting that you did not stop at the babysitter's is horrible. Our media have decided not to publicize this all too frequent occurence because producers, editors, and talent probably all have children that they drive in their own minivans and SUVs. We hear about what happened to one foolish girl on vacation in Aruba for more than a year now. Her story is exotic. Dead babies from middle-class parents' neglect is too close to home.


76 posted on 06/29/2006 9:50:52 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS

>>I am not a father (hope to be someday), but isn't your baby kinda the center of your universe. How could you forget such a thing?<<

It's quite possible, actually. The problem is, the human mind is not perfect. It is possible to forget something extremely important to you. It is possible to go through the whole day thinking a thing has been done when it hasn't. Only when you realize the consequences of the fact do you remember that you didn't do that thing.

On rare occasion, this can have tragic consequences. Fortunately, it doesn't happen very often.


77 posted on 06/29/2006 9:52:17 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: angelanddevil2

>>I understand you CANNOT neglect your kid. I see this extremly unfortunate. But I feel pitty rather than anger. Looks to me that most people in this thread are lucky enough to live apart from society, and that they don't feel the pressure of having two incomes to pay the bills (and I mean just the regular bills, not for luxury items) or that anyone who is not happily married with the first spouse is evil. So I assume that the kids of all those parents here never ever had an accident. Every accident (and ACCIDENTS HAPPEN) can be seen as 'this leftist parent who doesn't take care of the kid'. Come on!. The miracle really is to reach adulthood.<<

You saved me some time. I can merely repost what you said. And I heartily agree.


78 posted on 06/29/2006 9:54:16 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: charming_harmonica

Shouldn't be sending an infant to daycare anyway.

Raise your own damn children, people!


79 posted on 06/29/2006 9:54:28 AM PDT by agooga (I lied-- No one died.)
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To: Texas Mom

I always put my child behind the passenger seat. Easier to see and reach.


80 posted on 06/29/2006 9:58:07 AM PDT by Gone GF
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