[jamiefoxer]

thank god you're not one of our country's Founders.

Either we stand for the Constitution, or Hammurabbi's code of an Eye for an Eye.

Where do you stand today?

[Praxeus]

"Where do you stand today?"

That is the point... whether we will be standing at the end at all. If we are, then we can ruminate about platitudes.

First, to win (and thus, survive). And that, by any means possible.

[Prokopton]

"Either we stand for the Constitution, or Hammurabbi's code of an Eye for an Eye."

These are not mutually exclusive. Our legal system is broadly based on Lex Talionis or retributive justice which is also reflected in the Bible and the Code of Hammurabbi.