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To: ARealMothersSonForever

I didn't say I support Al-Qaeda and infer we deserved 9/11? Were did you read that? I said that I thought SCOTUS was correct in ruling the President of the United States does not have unlimited authority to suspend our rule of law and due process rights, and where this principle is tested best is how we treat those we capture.

If they're Al-Qaeda, prove it in a court of law, throw them in a prison if GUILTY, and throw away the key. let them rot in Jail

If they're regular POWs from Afghanistan and Iraq (NOT Al-Qaeda), hold them as stipulated by the Geneva Conventions OR how other civilized Western nations do it, then release them when the conflict with Afghanistan and Iraq is over.

Simple procedures that would make us actually fulfill our stated values better (rather than say we stand for democracy but look the other way when we feel like it), and that would do the job excellently to prosecute these wars and the war on terrorism better.

Where did I say I align myself with Al-Qaeda and 9/11 in those statements?


516 posted on 06/29/2006 8:53:26 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer
"I said that I thought SCOTUS was correct in ruling the President of the United States does not have unlimited authority to suspend our rule of law and due process rights,"

Our rule of law has never applied to prisoners of war, captured in the heat of battle.
Next you are going to tell us the Nuremberg trials should have been held in New York under American law too, no?
You are talking nonsense.
525 posted on 06/29/2006 8:56:28 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: jamiefoxer

[Where did I say I align myself with Al-Qaeda and 9/11 in those statements?]

You didn't have to, you just signed up today...


534 posted on 06/29/2006 9:00:36 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: jamiefoxer
President of the United States does not have unlimited authority to suspend our rule of law and due process rights,

Suspend? Unlimited? Rule of law? Those things weren't even on the table.

Respectfully, do you have any idea what was being debated?

604 posted on 06/29/2006 9:18:44 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: jamiefoxer
I misunderstood your statement of POW's in a legitimate war to infer that AQ's actions on 9-11 were legitimate. I do concur with your sentiment of adhering to law. This ruling seems to impact 10 detainees that were scheduled for tribunal prior to congressional action. I do believe that we, the USA, should afford Geneva rights in the event that the legislative and judiciary make it clear to the executive what the status of these people is. Many of us tend to excerpt identifying uniform and command structure.
731 posted on 06/29/2006 10:00:36 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: jamiefoxer

You said you'd prefer the terrorists, who do not fall under Geneva Conventions, to be granted Geneva protections and given trials and lawyers.


806 posted on 06/29/2006 11:57:29 AM PDT by Darksheare (This is a test of the emergency tagline system. Had there been an emergency, you would have heard...)
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