May I ask why you are so upset over this? Do you think the Holy Apostles cared one whit if they caused an agitation? Do you think Jesus cared that he stirred up the scribes and Pharisees?
If Harvey's "one moment of agitation" causes a person to not get an abortion or changes the mind of one person who is pro-abortion, then yes, I would say it was worth it.
No offense, but that's the kind of arguing that Liberals do. Locomotive Breath has an idea, a moral principle which is, I think VERY worth examining. My personal opinion is that LB is mistaken, but I have on very rare occasion been mistaken myself so I have to be open to the laughably minuscule possibility that I am in error this time.
It's like this, I think: Lies, misdirection, suggesting the false, are bad. Even when they are done in a good cause, at least some of their bad sequelae persist. E.g.: If today I lie to you in a morally licit way (if any) and in a good cause, tomorrow you may doubt my word and my cause when I need you to believe me.
To contend fairly, the reason or goal of the fight must be fair, and the manner of fighting must also be fair. So LB thinks that Mr. Harvey fought unfairly.
I think homicide is just as evil as lying, and I can imagine cases where homicide is licit -- for example: I have very good reason to believe that that spare tire you're toting is actually a suicide bomb -- VERY GOOD reason.
Similarly, I don't think I know enough about the parliamentary procedures and expectations of the assembly where Mr. Harvey did this. But it is at least possible that he encouraged folks to give him permission to have the young lady sing for reasons which were not his true reasons. I think it's legitimate to question this.
And I'm NOT upset, dammit!
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I would rather not win the battle and lose the war. And I'm not upset, but I think Harvey's is a bad tactic.
I have told this story before. Once I met a beautiful 16 year old girl was was a result of a rape and her mother did not want to kill her own daughter even though what happened to her was very ugly. Every once in a while I think of this beautiful girl and then wonder how many other young women and men did not get the chance to live because of someone else's evil act. That beautiful girl did nothing to bring on a death sentence but so many do every day. She started out as just the being the potential of life,Gods gift.For me as a christian I believe life is given by a man and a woman and the blessing of God. Blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.