Posted on 06/27/2006 2:48:32 PM PDT by Nachum
Let's see now. Hypothetical: Palestinians attack Israeli town with qassam style WMD's, thousands killed. Israel responds with mass deportation and the eradication of "Gaza". Egypt gets angry and either 1) breaks Camp David and remilitarized the Sinai but probably will not invade Israel or 2) uses the destraction to invade Lybia to exploit the natural resources knowing nobody, at that moment, is going to use force to stop them.
Iran makes lots of noise but may not be able to deliver just now, however is known to be working diligently on nuclear or chemical long range missiles.
No choice. US and allies have to take out Iranian government and missile projects.
If they don't, and Iran strikes Israel with WMD's killing tens of thousands or even many more (i.e. nukes), Israel retaliates with nukes.
So let's hope it doesn't start, because if it does it has to be finished with the least amount of spread - by cutting off Iran's capability to prevent regional nuclear war.
The Israelis would have to be pretty desperate to nuke Gaza. But I don't think they would need to. For the muzzies to try sliming them would be incredibly stupid. I'm quite certain that the IDF is much better equipped and trained to operate in an NBC environment than hamas, fatah, and the rest of that rabble.
"The horror, the horror..exterminate the brutes" said Col Kurtz..
It will be fulfilled..
I don't know what you are trying to say: that you agreed with Sharon's plan or not?
I'd just like to add here, that I have some contacts involved in the political system there, and I (non-military) was saying that I thought that it was a basically sensible idea: defensible borders, clear out Israelis in order to fascilitate bombing if necessary, etc.
I was told that the loss of 'eyes' on the ground, and the political difference of the level of official permission to act made it a totally irresponsible decision.
Meaning, while there were soldiers in Gaza, if they saw something suspicious, or a tunnel, or bombing making signs, they could act upon orders from their commanding officer. But once removed, and a border sealed, they would have to wait until a major provocation to act (basically raising the bar to making any reactive strike an act of war and involving the president). This has been brought home so clearly here. Had Israel still been in Gaza, this tunnel would have probably been discovered before this point.
Anyway, sorry if I didn't understand your post.
Sarah
I don't know what you are trying to say: that you agreed with Sharon's plan or not?
I'd just like to add here, that I have some contacts involved in the political system there, and I (non-military) was saying that I thought that it was a basically sensible idea: defensible borders, clear out Israelis in order to fascilitate bombing if necessary, etc.
I was told that the loss of 'eyes' on the ground, and the political difference of the level of official permission to act made it a totally irresponsible decision.
Meaning, while there were soldiers in Gaza, if they saw something suspicious, or a tunnel, or bombing making signs, they could act upon orders from their commanding officer. But once removed, and a border sealed, they would have to wait until a major provocation to act (basically raising the bar to making any reactive strike an act of war and involving the president). This has been brought home so clearly here. Had Israel still been in Gaza, this tunnel would have probably been discovered before this point.
Anyway, sorry if I didn't understand your post.
Sarah
please see my above post.
>>But sources in the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, speaking on condition of anonymity, said while the group is attempting to acquire biological and chemical agents, their current capabilities in the field still are mostly primitive.<<
Somehow it only seems fair that they should have leaks too.
Very true. All they will accomplish by picking a fight with Israel will be to get their rear ends kicked.
If the heathens even look like they're going to set of a chemical weapon, may the IDF give then a response that will make David's treatment of Goliath look like a Sunday School ice cream social!
I guess I will have to disagree with you, even if I am a moron. A round of suicide bombing with chemical weapons in marketplaces and city centers, and the Israeli people would demand their military to use every weapon in their arsenal.
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"And before you call Israel using their nukes moronic, please consider this. Which is more moronic? Using a nuclear device in RETALIATION because the Palstinian Squatters used Chem and Bio weapons against Israel FIRST, killing tens or hundreds of thousadns, or MILLIONS of Jews, thus wiping out most of the Palestinians who just wiped out most of the Israelis, or is it more moronic allowing the Palestinian Squatters to do that, and get away with it without Israel retaliating in kind."
Look at a map and the size of Israel & Gaza. They are part of the same tiny land mass. Even battlefield nukes would kill as many Israelis from fallout as would Palestinians from blast/radiation. MAD with nukes cannot work because of geographics is my point. Retaliation should always happen with overwhelming force if WMD is used, but the massive retaliation from Israel would use conventional weapons.
"I guess I will have to disagree with you, even if I am a moron. A round of suicide bombing with chemical weapons in marketplaces and city centers, and the Israeli people would demand their military to use every weapon in their arsenal."
I wouldn't call anyone here at FR a moron. A decision to use nukes on Gaza would be moronic and hence will not happen. Look at the map, Israel/Gaza connected. It would be like Phoenix Arizona nuking Tucson. The radiation would fall back on your own people.
Give me a plane, a crew, six nuclear missiles and I´ll solve the murdering arab s.o.b.s problem; plus an extra for those nazi-Vatican followers!
Israel cannot - must not - give away one single mm.2 of its land!
It should take back everything it has already given - from the time of Menachem Beguin to Sharon!!!!
These arabs say: "...hudna today and in 10 years´time we take everything else..."
We can see what it´s costing us to have given away Gaza! Don´t even dare think of the same for the Western Bank!
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