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To: joan
Well-armed Muslims greatly outnumbered the Dutch

That isn't the point. The point is that those Muslims could not have held out indefinitely in a Srebrenica surrounded by even more well-armed Serb Republic forces.

The Serb counterattack however was much hyped, with the media claiming it was an unprovoked attack.

Of course the attack on Srebrenica was provoked - if not by the bombardment, it was provoked by the presence in Srebrenica of Muslim soldiers who had been raiding and looting the local Serb towns, killing civilians there, etc.

The question is what happened to the prisoners afterwards. Executing POWs en masse is a crime, attacking an enemy force is not.

110 posted on 06/27/2006 12:01:26 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

Oric didn't want to hand over Srebrenica, he was a classic local thug, the kind who thrive in all civil wars. He ruled with an iron fist, had zero strategic vision and was hated and feared by the civilian musilms in the enclave, their leaders were gunned down by Oric's assassination squads.

He only agreed to hand over Srebrenica after he was paid a huge amount of gold by the Bosnian Govt. This is not a secret, the Bosnian Muslim newspapers have been full of reports of this and at Izetbegovich's funeral Oric talked about it.

The Dutch army witnesses admitted that they woke up on the morning of the 11th and found that the 28th division soldiers had vanished in the night. They'd been occupying the frontlines with the Dutch OPs. This speaks of a highly organised decision by the 28th division to let Srebrenica fall.

It's good to see you accept that the 28th division was raiding the Serb villages and killing all they found, largely women, kids and the elderly. The Dutch report had to admit that the 28th never thought that taking prisoners on these raids was even an option.

Yes, there were executions after the fall of Srebrenica.

In the 100's. The low 100's at that.

However, don't forget that the Bosnian Serbs allowed between 1,500 to 3,000 men of fighting age through to Tuzla on the buses that evacuated the women, elderly and kids.

Those executed were reprisals by locals for the slaughter that the 28th carried out over the previous few years.

It was revenge for revenge for revenge for......

True for any civil war.

The rest of the missing?

Well, that 8,000 figure was arrived at by shoddy research by Brunborg. It was torn to shreds by the defence expert witness.

And don't forget that the individual battles that raged along the columns route from Susnjari / Jaglici to Baljkovica / Nezuk accounted ( if you total them up using ABiH figures ) for many 1,000s.

So that's it.

It was a vicious area of a nasty civil war. However, no worse than, say, Mostar, or any more evil than the Lebanese civil war.

Read some books on civil wars over last few decades and the sad aspect is that the Bosnian civil war was small potatoes compared to some of the killing fields in the 3rd world.


115 posted on 06/27/2006 8:29:08 PM PDT by infidel_and_proud
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