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Austrian Writer Peter Handke: Send my award to the Serbs
ERPKIM ^ | June 23, 2006 | By D. Sekulic

Posted on 06/26/2006 11:04:21 AM PDT by Bokababe

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To: wideawake
You have been slammed real GOOD on this thread... WHAT A JOY TO BEHOLD.

Now, Tuck your little tail between your legs and run like a mussie coward ALWAYS does!

141 posted on 06/28/2006 9:29:32 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: steve-b
I note that this argument is advanced by the same people who (correctly) ridicule the notion that we should refrain from fighting an Islamic enemy during Ramadan.

The fact is that Ramadan was taken into account, while Serbian Easter was not. What does it tell you?

142 posted on 06/28/2006 9:29:32 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole
Or Western Easter either. I remember that the Pope asked NATO not to bomb on either one. NATO did anyway.

Like an infamous, infamous dicator once said... "how many divisions does the Pope have??"

Meaning, WHAT IS THAT POPE GOING TO DO TO STOP US....

NATO apparently felt the same way!

143 posted on 06/28/2006 9:40:19 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: steve-b
He supported Serbia because he saw Serbia as the last remaining outpost of the Communism he favors, not because of any humanitarian concerns. *** DING DING DING *** No more calls; we have a winner!

And you have won $5000 from Pavlov Psy-ops Wartime Propaganda machine!!!!!

Tomorrow's question: "Give us the single best reason why we should invade Cyprus and give it to our NATO ally Turkey!"

(Ding-ding-ding) Do I hear salivating yet?

144 posted on 06/28/2006 9:48:59 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: joan
NATO planes were also jamming Serbian radar to enable Croat planes to bomb fleeing civilians.

While your claim is completely without basis, I'll point out that you are accusing US servicemen of participating in a war crime.

Worse than a liar, that makes you a traitor.

Did you know that German street cleaning equipment was used to clean up the "road pizza" mess of Serbs and their vehicles smashed and slaughtered on the way out?

German collusion with Croatia is well-established.

The training was done by the U.S. MPRI which was "retired" U.S. officers - many who "retired" temporarily to train the Croats and then official rejoined after that. It was only a formality.

US line officers do not retire temporarily.

But thanks for slandering the USA again.

145 posted on 06/28/2006 10:00:05 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: joan
The west chose a recipe for breakup and purposely.

Ah, yes - the monolithic, evil west. Quite the conspiracy theorist.

Abdic was the Serbian candidate in Bosnia, and he was not "swept aside", he withdrew in order to organize a unit that fought alongside the VRS.

He's currently serving time for the war crimes he committed while leading that unit against Izetbegovic's forces.

I'm not sure what kind of "moderate" executes 121 civilians.

146 posted on 06/28/2006 10:06:09 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: A. Pole
Milosevic is Red Herring here.

Not at all. The thread is about an individual who supported Milosevic, met with him and was an honored speaker at his funeral.

Of course it is not possible in a prolonged civil war for any side to remain innocent.

Of course. That's obvious.

This provided propaganda cover for the two main crimes of this civil war

Yes, the media did spin against the Serbs. That's a far cry from establishing that NATO controls the media and instructed them to do so.

147 posted on 06/28/2006 10:09:57 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: joan
You are wrong because Milosevic is dead and he is still concerned and compassionate towards the beleaguered Kosovo Serbs.

Incorrect. He committed to a position and he is now holding it to the bitter end. I point out again that he was a dedicated Stalinist and joined a Stalinist political party after Stalin was dead and after Khruschev declared deStalinization. Handke is a deadender.

148 posted on 06/28/2006 10:11:57 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
"Abdic was the Serbian candidate in Bosnia"

Abdic is a Bosnian Muslim - both his first and last names are common Bosniak names. He wasn't Serb nor from Serbia.

149 posted on 06/28/2006 10:13:30 AM PDT by joan
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To: wideawake
I'm not sure what kind of "moderate" executes 121 civilians.

The kind of "civilians" who were doing things like planting explosives and throwing grenades most likely.

150 posted on 06/28/2006 10:15:12 AM PDT by joan
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To: Lion in Winter
You have been slammed real GOOD on this thread... WHAT A JOY TO BEHOLD.

If by "slammed" you mean insulted by morons like yourself, then you're absolutely right.

If you meant that my points have been refuted, they haven't. Handke is still a Communist and Milosevic's legacy as a war criminal and dictator is intact.

So sorry.

Now, Tuck your little tail between your legs and run like a mussie coward ALWAYS does!

Count your blessings that you didn't make that comment to my face. You are indeed living proof that luck is better than candlepower.

151 posted on 06/28/2006 10:16:51 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/05-10-99/why_kosovo.htm

Additionally, the Croatian military campaign received tactical support from NATO. As Croat forces began their attack, U.S. aircraft under NATO command destroyed Serbian radar and anti-aircraft defenses in the region. American EA-6B electronic warfare aircraft patrolled the skies in support of the unfolding offensive, jamming communications between Serb units. But there was also a covert American presence on the ground in support of the Croats. Military Professional Resources Incorporated (MPRI), a private military and intelligence consulting firm based in Virginia, had been hired by Tudjman in early 1995 to upgrade his Soviet-created Ministry of Defense into a modern fighting force. According to MPRI information officer Joseph Allred, the firm exists so that "the U.S. can have influence as part of its national strategy on other nations without employing its own army."

Thanks in large measure to training it received from MPRI, the "ex"-Communist Croatian military, which had previously been dismissed as bumbling and inept, performed its grisly mission in Krajina with unexpected efficiency and professionalism. By focusing primarily on civilian targets, the Croats minimized their casualties: Croatia admitted to suffering only 118 dead or wounded, as compared to an estimated 14,000 civilian casualties among the Serbs. An AP dispatch filed during the offensive reported that Croat forces shelled and strafed columns of Serb refugees.

Canadian General Alain Forand, who was assigned to UN "peacekeeping" duty in Krajina during Operation Storm, has testified, "There is no doubt in my mind that the Croats knew they were shelling civilian targets" in the city of Knin, which was where the Krajina Serb parliament was located. Colonel Andrew Leslie, another Canadian "peacekeeper," estimated that of the more than 3,000 shells fired at the city, no more than 250 hit military targets; accordingly, he concluded, "the fire was deliberately directed against civilian buildings." Leslie has also described seeing bodies of the dead at Knin Hospital "stacked in the corridors … in piles."


152 posted on 06/28/2006 10:18:13 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan
Abdic is a Bosnian Muslim - both his first and last names are common Bosniak names. He wasn't Serb nor from Serbia.

I never claimed he was a Serb. He is a Bosnian Muslim, but he was the candidate for the presidency favored by the Serbian electorate.

he was the candidate favored by Yugoslavia and he wound up fighting on the Serb side against Bosnian Muslims.

153 posted on 06/28/2006 10:23:15 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake; montyspython; ma bell
Dear wideawake.... I mean HALF-ASLEEP!!!!

HA!! HA! LOL!!

Again you made my day!!

I MADE YOU MAD!!!

I am so happy now.... haha!!!

They kicked you good and now I get a HUGE laught at YOUR expense.

This too rich!!! THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!

You are soooooo angry, LOL!!

154 posted on 06/28/2006 10:24:40 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: joan
The kind of "civilians" who were doing things like planting explosives and throwing grenades most likely.

If I made those kind of assumptions about the Serbs killed by Oric and his thugs, you'de be screaming your head off. But without any specific knowledge, you make this assumption.

Interesting.

155 posted on 06/28/2006 10:26:11 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
The Serbs killed by Oric were mutilated and dismembered - and there are pictures and autopsies of this. Even if they were armed, the mutilation - cutting off the heads - shows what animals they are and is a war crime in itself.

Let's see you post and pictures, autopsy results or evidence of the alleged civilians killed by Abdic.

156 posted on 06/28/2006 10:28:36 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan

Sorry, I don't consider cut-and-paste jobs from tinfoil-hatted Buchananite sites authoritative.


157 posted on 06/28/2006 10:30:07 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: joan
And those were SERBIAN civilians weren't they?

The croats of 1995-1998 got away with more war crimes just they did after WWII.

I guess TITO, that old Croat commie did not want his fellow CROATS to suffer TOO much, even if they had been BIG HITLER LOVING NAZIS IN WWII.

158 posted on 06/28/2006 10:30:10 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: Bokababe

This Man seems to a leftist fighter against Jihad. Maybe he'll sway other leftists


159 posted on 06/28/2006 10:31:36 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok.)
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To: joan
Let's see you post and pictures, autopsy results or evidence of the alleged civilians killed by Abdic.

Abdic's crimes are a matter of public record and he is serving time in prison for them right now.

160 posted on 06/28/2006 10:31:43 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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