Posted on 06/24/2006 6:45:36 AM PDT by radar101
oh, now that I've re-read it, I can see the sarcasm, very funny BTW. Shalom to you and thanks for the support!
Tampa
So she doesn't expose her wrists or ankles? 'Tasteful and reasonably modest' are subjective. I have to admit to not being fearful of, or disgusted by the female form.
Yes, they are. And reasonable people can discuss them without hyperbole. You don't have to decide between wearing bikinis on the street and wearing bhurkas. When you toss out the bhurkas I don't believe you honestly want to discuss the subject.
I have to admit to not being fearful of, or disgusted by the female form.
Are you speaking as an admirer or a father? I am both. I am not fearful of nor disgusted by the female form. However, I do think there is a world of good to be done by practicing modesty. I have taught my daughter so. I have not noticed that she lacks for male attention. In fact, she often gets more attention than more scantily clad women.
Shalom.
Hyperbole? In the U.S. women were arrested for immodestly displaying their legs and arms at the beaches. It's isn't hyperbole to point out the range of 'modesty' in this world today. I seek only to confine your definition and exerice of modesty to yourself and your family, and to let others make their own call on that subject.
Yes, but unless you're suggesting my daughter is VERY old, she and I haven't been through that.
I seek only to confine your definition and exerice of modesty to yourself and your family, and to let others make their own call on that subject.
I might seek to pursuade others, but that is all. Do you have any evidence that anyone is trying to change the laws on decency? If you look you will find it isn't conservative Christians who try to change the culture by forcing laws on people, it's liberals.
Shalom.
Did you read the article?
"Besides signs, residents are collecting signatures and statements outside Vons, Bamberger said. They plan to send the dozens of statements of opposition to San Diego city officials in charge of approving a restaurant's permit to operate, and to the state Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control that would approve its liquor license."
Who's running to the government to force people to do what they want...
You and me both. My office went there for lunch one day (just to say we did, I think) and the food was . . . so so, the waitress was a nice girl, but emphasize girl and not really ready for a 10 top table.
The only really good thing I found about it was that they had fried pickles!
Otherwise, too loud, mediocre food, slow service and I hate wings. LOL
I wonder how many people filled bamburger's bank account to be told where they can and cannot eat.
Yes.
"Besides signs, residents are collecting signatures and statements outside Vons, Bamberger said. They plan to send the dozens of statements of opposition to San Diego city officials in charge of approving a restaurant's permit to operate, and to the state Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control that would approve its liquor license."
Well, first of all, I don't see any thing in this paragraph that suggests a desire to change laws respecting proper modest dress. Second of all, I didn't think gathering petitions in a grass-roots effort to establish a zoning regulation was anything like trying to force anything down the people's throat. I thought it was the people using their voices to hold their standards. You seem to be mixing apples and Chevrolets, here.
Shalom.
'Establish a zoning regulation' is a cute way of saying 'use the government to force people to do what you want'. You claimed the people trying to restrict others weren't leaning on the law to accomplish their ends. I pointed out you were wrong, quit fiddling with the goalposts...
I must be way behind in my SP!! That is HILARIOUS!!!
I agree, but you might want to reverse the sequence ;)
All laws are about people trying to restrict others. I said nobody was trying to change modesty laws. I did make a statement trying to distinguish between using a petition to change the law vs. say, getting a judge to do it, but it was off the modesty topic. I apologize for confusing you.
Shalom.
What you should apologize for is being mendacious.
"I wonder if the MSM and the other slimes will ever understand that "liberal" is slang for treasonous, anti-American, Islamofascism and commie/leftist/socialist appeasing, intolerant fascist oppression?
Or is it just me that thinks that?"
And this has what to do with the topic?
If I cared enough about you to lie to you, I would.
Shalom.
So THAT"S how my wife made the money to buy my new golf clubs.
Thanks, Honey.
Lie? No, just disengenuous in your assertion that the 'decency' advocates aren't trying to use the law to compel their standards. But keep mincing, it's cute.
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