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Campaign against Hooters heats up
San Diego Union ^ | June 24, 2006 | Elena Gaona

Posted on 06/24/2006 6:45:36 AM PDT by radar101

RANCHO BERNARDO – Developer Ron Bamberger doesn't deny stepping into a Hooters once or twice. Even though he didn't really like the food, that's not the reason he thinks it's a bad idea for the company to open a restaurant in the area.

“We're in a high-end, award-winning master-planned community, and Hooters is not consistent with the culture,” he said.

Bamberger is president of Boardwalk Development, which among other ventures manages the shopping center on Bernardo Center Drive that houses Vons and other stores.

He said that for the good of the community where he does business, he's spearheading what he calls a grass-roots campaign against Hooters that includes residents and other businesses. Bamberger also is president of the Bernardo Town Center Property Owners Association.

Hooters goes against the family values in the community, he said.

Opponents will soon post signs around Rancho Bernardo that purportedly quote from a Hooters employee handbook: “The essence of the Hooters concept is entertainment through female sex appeal, of which the look is a key part.” The rest of the sign reads, “RB Says No to Hooters.”

Besides signs, residents are collecting signatures and statements outside Vons, Bamberger said. They plan to send the dozens of statements of opposition to San Diego city officials in charge of approving a restaurant's permit to operate, and to the state Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control that would approve its liquor license.

Hooters is known for waitresses in form-fitting shorts and tops delivering hot wings and burgers. Its name is slang for female breasts.

Fred Glick, president of Hoot Winc LLC, the partnership that owns and operates 24 other Hooters around the country, including one in Oceanside, said he's not worried about the opposition.

“While a small, vocal minority of the population may voice their concerns before we open new locations, those concerns are unfounded and quickly disappear” once residents visit the eatery, Glick said.

He added that Bamberger is mischaracterizing Hooters as a tawdry strip joint. Instead, he said, it's a restaurant that's casual and fun. It sells beer and wine only, Glick said, adding that up to $2 million would be spent to retrofit the abandoned, 6,300-square-foot-building that Hooters is scheduled to lease near Interstate 15 and Rancho Bernardo Road.

Still, more than 100 people packed a recent Rancho Bernardo Planning Board meeting to protest the restaurant. Councilman Brian Maienschein opposes it, too. But both the Planning Board and the Rancho Bernardo Community Council declined to take a position because they also heard from residents or businesses that support it.

The extra media attention generated by Bamberger's efforts may actually drive up business, Glick said, adding, “Now they have a reason to see what the fuss is all about.”

Glick said Bamberger may be opposed to Hooters because it would be next door to Bamberger's development company. Bamberger lost a bid to buy the property for his own expansion efforts, Glick said.

Bamberger said he tried to buy the property three years ago, but that his opposition has “absolutely nothing to do” with that. Hooters simply doesn't fit Rancho Bernardo, he said.

“I would welcome any other business,” Bamberger said.

Elena Gaona: (760) 737-7575; elena.gaona@uniontrib.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: adultentertainment; antigrowth; hooters; justhereforthepics
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To: radar101
“We're in a high-end, award-winning master-planned community, and Hooters is not consistent with the culture,” he said.

It's a gay-planned community?

101 posted on 06/24/2006 6:05:08 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (No Christian will dare say that [Genesis] must not be taken in a figurative sense. St Augustine)
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To: xrp
Speaking of Chili's, whatever became of their Ranch Hand Fillet? That was a nice plate of chow. I don't go there much any more because it not on the menu any more.
102 posted on 06/24/2006 7:19:16 PM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: Oztrich Boy

No, the guy is full of it.

It was THE first planned community in San Diego County, and was built mid-70's.

There are several HIGHER-end communities in San Diego. Actually, Rancho Bernardo is in San Diego CITY.


103 posted on 06/24/2006 7:19:51 PM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
104 posted on 06/25/2006 12:12:34 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

"How about a strip club, then?"

ROFLMAO! Or how about he pony up a little more cash next time?!?!? F'in developers..."nothing to do with that" my fanny.


105 posted on 06/25/2006 12:43:55 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: RinAZ2005; Rennes Templar
"Then they could exercise imminent domain to grab the Hooters and suck them dry."

Unintentional Comedy Index=9 1/2.

106 posted on 06/25/2006 12:46:41 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: Montfort

So, you like the meat?


107 posted on 06/25/2006 4:06:18 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: PrepareToLeave
A young child should not have bare breasted women within eyeshot. Wake up people.

There is no better place for some young children to eat.



"Mmmm. Hooters."
108 posted on 06/25/2006 4:16:38 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: radar101
Campaign against Hooters heats up

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I was just against Hooters a few hours ago and my campaign definitely heated up.

109 posted on 06/25/2006 4:43:52 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: ArGee
My goodness, you are upset. I doubt this response will mean much but I'll try. I believe that a majority of citizens in any given community should have a voice on what they will or will not allow in that community. I happen to live in a dry county. I don't see the point, but I live with it.

My standard of morality is different from yours, not higher, I do accept your standard without hesitation and the point of my post was wondering why those of us who think this way can't expect the same.

Forgive my sensitivity regarding children. I believe that growing them up too fast is harmful to their little minds. I don't think this is a stand that should be attacked so violently, but again that's me. Peace to you as well, nothing personal.

110 posted on 06/25/2006 5:44:01 AM PDT by PrepareToLeave
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To: radar101
“We're in a high-end, award-winning master-planned community, and Hooters is not consistent with the culture,” he said.

I wonder if this guy knows that he sounds like an annoying, elitist prig. Probably not.

I guess it's their community, but with the types of entertainment that are just a short distance away, I think their priorities might be a tiny bit skewed.

111 posted on 06/25/2006 6:02:40 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: RipSawyer
They sound delicious, unless they are going for nothing but straight fire and no flavor. There are some hot sauces (and wing sauces) out there that are really just for adding heat and not flavor. I love a good really hot habanero hot sauce as long as it also has some flavor.

I haven't seen a Zaxby's, but I'll certainly keep an eye out for one when I travel.

112 posted on 06/25/2006 6:11:32 AM PDT by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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To: PrepareToLeave
My goodness, you are upset.

Sorry - I was being sarcastic, not upset. When someone suggests that Hooters is not a great idea for a family neighborhood and someone else comes flying off the handle to ask who you are - you are probably someone who made them think about something they would rather not have thought about. So they attack you rather than thinking about it.

Not that I've ever done that. Nope. Nope. I'm above that sort of thing you know. </sarcasm>

I'll try to be more obvious next time.

Shalom.

113 posted on 06/25/2006 7:08:52 AM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: All

I think every Hooter's in the country should put a "BamBurger" on the menu. Just a small, tasteless thing, with no appeal.


114 posted on 06/25/2006 7:41:54 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: All

“We're in a high-end, award-winning master-planned community, and Hooters is not consistent with the culture,” he said.

Maybe they can open one and call it Snooters!

Snobby, snobby.


115 posted on 06/25/2006 7:44:38 AM PDT by dinodino (Mrs. Dinodino)
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To: driftdiver

Myrtle Beach?


116 posted on 06/25/2006 7:50:07 AM PDT by captnorb
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To: Pablo64

I can't tell you what they actually taste like as I can't tolerate that much heat. I truly cannot imagine why any sane person wants to eat something that hot, possibly if they have some kind of chronic pain it could be helpful in releiving it but otherwise it makes no sense to me.


117 posted on 06/25/2006 10:31:38 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Pablo64

Well, there is one other thing, I have found SUPER hot wings to be one of the most effective and rapid ways to relieve sinus congestion.


118 posted on 06/25/2006 10:34:19 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

We have no Hooters here in Montana, so I'm not abreast of the situation. But we really don't need them, as the terrain is bulging and certainly not flat.


119 posted on 06/25/2006 11:02:47 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: RipSawyer

Absolutely great for your sinuses. Also good for lots of other things. There was an article years ago in the Smithsonian magazine about chile peppers and those of us who insanely crave the super hot. One theory they have as to why some people love them is that even though the heat registers a certain level of pain, your body's response to that is for the brain to release endorphines and that the resulting endorphine rush is really what we are craving. Not sure if that's true, but I grew up in the southwest (Colorado, New Mexico) and I started in on hot peppers early in life. Maybe that's the key; start when you're young.


120 posted on 06/25/2006 11:15:59 AM PDT by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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