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To: kerryusama04
Huge news - they're still calling it a theory!

They are calling it a theory because it is a theory. Only somebody totally unfamiliar with science and the way it defines terms would be shocked at this. So, before this thread gets any older, here a some definitions of terms, as scientists are likely to use them (from a google search, with additions from this thread):

Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses." Addendum: "Theories do not grow up to be laws. Theories explain laws." (Courtesy of VadeRetro.)

Theory: A scientifically testable general principle or body of principles offered to explain observed phenomena. In scientific usage, a theory is distinct from a hypothesis (or conjecture) that is proposed to explain previously observed phenomena. For a hypothesis to rise to the level of theory, it must predict the existence of new phenomena that are subsequently observed. A theory can be overturned if new phenomena are observed that directly contradict the theory. [Source]

When a scientific theory has a long history of being supported by verifiable evidence, it is appropriate to speak about "acceptance" of (not "belief" in) the theory; or we can say that we have "confidence" (not "faith") in the theory. It is the dependence on verifiable data and the capability of testing that distinguish scientific theories from matters of faith.

Hypothesis: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices."

Proof: Except for math and geometry, there is little that is actually proved. Even well-established scientific theories can't be conclusively proved, because--at least in principle--a counter-example might be discovered. Scientific theories are always accepted provisionally, and are regarded as reliable only because they are supported (not proved) by the verifiable facts they purport to explain and by the predictions which they successfully make. All scientific theories are subject to revision (or even rejection) if new data are discovered which necessitates this.

Law: a generalization that describes recurring facts or events in nature; "the laws of thermodynamics."

Model: a simplified representation designed to illuminate complex processes; a hypothetical description of a complex entity or process; a physical or mathematical representation of a process that can be used to predict some aspect of the process.

Speculation: a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence). When a scientist speculates he is drawing on experience, patterns and somewhat unrelated things that are known or appear to be likely. This becomes a very informed guess.

Guess: an opinion or estimate based on incomplete evidence, or on little or no information.

Assumption: premise: a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; "on the assumption that he has been injured we can infer that he will not to play"

Impression: a vague or subjective idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying."

Opinion: a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty.

Observation: any information collected with the senses.

Data: factual information, especially information organized for analysis or used to reason or make decisions.

Fact: when an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact.

Religion: Theistic: 1. the belief in a superhuman controlling power, esp. in a personal God or gods entitled to obedience and worship. 2. the expression of this in worship. 3. a particular system of faith and worship.

Religion: Non-Theistic: The word religion has many definitions, all of which can embrace sacred lore and wisdom and knowledge of God or gods, souls and spirits. Religion deals with the spirit in relation to itself, the universe and other life. Essentially, religion is belief in spiritual beings. As it relates to the world, religion is a system of beliefs and practices by means of which a group of people struggles with the ultimate problems of human life.

Belief: any cognitive content (perception) held as true; religious faith.

Faith: the belief in something for which there is no material evidence or empirical proof; acceptance of ideals, beliefs, etc., which are not necessarily demonstrable through experimentation or observation. A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny.

Dogma: a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without evidence.

Based on these, evolution is a theory. CS and ID are beliefs.

[Last revised 2/23/06]

8 posted on 06/22/2006 1:38:32 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: Coyoteman

Oops. I should have read further before I posted!
susie


20 posted on 06/22/2006 2:01:13 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Coyoteman

The bottom line is that scientific theories are often wrong and most of science is junk science, including the theory of evolution and global warming. I take anything science says with a grain of salt because science does not have a very good track record of being correct.


52 posted on 06/22/2006 2:23:28 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: Coyoteman

Good post. A theory is a story about causation. We have two or more sets of observations and then propose a "theory" to "explain" those observations and how one set of data might have caused the other set data. In the case of the evolutionists, there is the fossil record and the modern world around us. They propose a theory of how the fossil record and the modern world are connected. The connector is natural (random) selection

The CS appear to forget about the fossil record and concentrate on the modern world alone. We got here because God willed us to exist.

The ID folks recognize the fossil record and the modern world, but really have no story about how the two might be connected except some intelligence that steps into the picture at just the right moment to direct the developments.

Seems to me that the evolutionists and the ID folks are closer than they would like to admit. I'm not sure that either has much of a chance to propose a rejectable (testable) hypothesis.


62 posted on 06/22/2006 2:32:12 PM PDT by macromania
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To: Coyoteman
Thanks. Nice list>

You can go back to howling at the moon now. ;>)

187 posted on 06/22/2006 7:46:07 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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