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To: Onelifetogive; OmahaFields; balrog666; brytlea
Re 218: I question evolution because its supporters are fighting so hard to keep it from being questioned.

LOL. Just whom do you think you are fooling?

Consider: "I question doctors because they all use X-rays when a kid comes in with a possibly broken arm. Doctors and their humanistic supporters are fighting hard to prevent X-rays from being removed from their clinics as the Church of N-rays urges."

"The questioning of X-rays is a deeply held faith", say faith believers. "There is not a single mention of X-rays in either the Qu'ran or the Bible; if Allah or God wanted us to see X-rays, He would make our eyes able to see with X-ray vision." The only true vision is via N-rays. Neither Jesus nor Mohammed nor Buddha predicted X-rays, but some "scientific elites" still claim that they exist. This is a 'theory' without any foundation.

Modern medicine is largely based on comparative experiments on humans and animals which track evidence impirically [sic] and develop charts and trends. Evolution is not permitted to be compared to anything without garnering snide tin foil hat comments.

Hmm. I suspect this is inaccurate. Tin, Sn, is atomic number 50. Heavier than iron Fe at 26, but much less than lead PB at 82. Usually the foil hat types use Aluminium, only 13. Al is much cheaper and easier to get than tin, which is expensive and not in supermarkets. X-rays also differ in their energy, usually measured in keVs.

It is hard to keep track of all the faith denominations and sectarian differences about tin, aluminium, lead, and the like. Teach the controversy. Some say only tin is effective, some say aluminum. So many schisms. Satan is devious, so baptism is probably the only answer. Personally, I prefer MRI, based on Scripture.

246 posted on 06/22/2006 10:26:28 PM PDT by thomaswest (Humanists are wonderfully moral people, too.)
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To: thomaswest

I never wear a tin-foil hat. I know better. Tin-foil hats are a government conspiracy.

Tin Foil Hats Found to Amplify, Not Reduce, Government 'Mind-Control' Signals

Tin foil hats on, everyone - or maybe not. Tests carried out by MIT students have found that tin foil hats actually amplify 'government mind control' signals sent at frequencies which match those allocated to the US government.

Several hat designs were looked at and "a 30 db amplification at 2.6 Ghz and a 20 db amplification at 1.2 Ghz, regardless of the position of the antenna on the cranium" was found.

The students suggest that the government itself may have spread the rumour that the hats protect individuals from incomming transmissions in order to enhance their mind control programme.


248 posted on 06/22/2006 10:36:13 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: thomaswest

I try hard not to wade into these things because no ones mind will be changed here. However, I just want to make one point. I taught Biology in the Bible Belt. I always had at least one student stand up and say they didn't want to learn about evolution because they didn't believe it, it went against their religious beliefs, etc.

The kids WANTED to discuss it, but we really could not. I think it's wrong, when a topic brings that much controversy, that there is no option to explore it. Personally, I don't have any desire to teach ID because I don't think it's really science. I tried to tell those students that the state required that they learn about evolutionary theory, not that they believe it, and if they wanted to be able to make an intelligent arguement to persuade anyone, they needed to know exactly what evolution was about.

And, the entire biology curriculum (and I suspect this is true everywhere) is based on evolution as a fact. So, if a parent doesn't want their child to learn about it, they will pretty much have to opt out of biology entirely.

I personally don't think that learning about evolution (if the parent is talking to the child and taking care of their religious upbringing) is going to turn them away from God. I am a born again Christian, and I cannot say I'm positive exactly how God created the earth and us. He certainly has abilities I cannot even fathom. But, I do understand the concern of parents who feel like the school systems are trying to indoctrinate their children and change their values/beliefs.

If evolution were the only bone of contention between parents and schools, then maybe we would be able to just suggest they wear tinfoil hats. However, we read stories every day of examples of schools stepping over the boundaries.

Just my 2 cents, worth a little less than you paid for it.
susie


269 posted on 06/23/2006 5:12:54 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: thomaswest
Consider: "I question doctors because they all use X-rays when a kid comes in with a possibly broken arm. Doctors and their humanistic supporters are fighting hard to prevent X-rays from being removed from their clinics as the Church of N-rays urges."

In the dozens of posts to me on this topic by Evolutionists, many, many straw man arguments like this have been set up and knocked down. What I have not heard even once is a proposed alternative that an evolutionist thinks should be evaluated.Please stop telling me what you think SHOULD NOT be considered and propose something that SHOULD be considered.

Did all life come from one miraculous "mud-hole" beginning and evolve into all varieties we have today, or did the mud-hole" miracle happen thousands (or millions) of times with many developing into various strains. Did life start on this planet or was it seeded (naturally or artifically) from another planet?

While some people would say this is "bio-genesis" and not "evolution", I disagree. Whether there was one or many strarting points for evolution is critical to the question of evolution. Is what we call "life" the only possible form, or are there many possible forms?

282 posted on 06/23/2006 10:39:16 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
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