To: Integrityrocks
I do agree that with a thimble full of initiative one should make more than minimum And so you don't want people to have to exert a "thimble full" of initiative. Just make the GUBMINT force employers to pay LAZY workers.
To: AmericaUnited
You have to start somewhere at 16 - 18. The initiative comes with moving past that starting point to a decent wage, but where you start should at least be "livable", I didn't say decadent.
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