To: SoothingDave
"Can you provide a Scripture verse that tells us that we may only believe dogma that is given explicit treatment in Scripture?"
I think, that unlike the Lutheran "Sola Scriptura", you imply that truth can be found outside the Bible as well. In this I agree.
However, I would say that any truth found outside the bible cannot contradict the Bible. So reason must be tested with Scripture to discern real truth. Therefore, if the Lord himself says, I am the narrow path, I cannot believe otherwise.
To: IndyPatriot
I think, that unlike the Lutheran "Sola Scriptura", you imply that truth can be found outside the Bible as well. In this I agree. However, I would say that any truth found outside the bible cannot contradict the Bible. So reason must be tested with Scripture to discern real truth. Therefore, if the Lord himself says, I am the narrow path, I cannot believe otherwise. I don't disagree with anything you said, but my point was more about ideas found explicitly in Scripture versus those that are more implicit. For instance, the Virgin Birth is flatly stated in Scripture. But the idea of the Trinity and that Jesus is God is implicit. (If you don't believe that, study the history of the Arian controversy: they were working from the same Scriptures and argued that Jesus was not God.)
SD
To: IndyPatriot
Catholic tradition is based on and tested by Scripture. If one were to take the time and look at various Catholic beliefs and look at the Scriptural base for it (such as honoring Mary, the Papacy, etc..), they would find that it is legitimate, and that most theological differences are matters of faith, but in the end we all believe in the same Christ.
If anyone has doubts about what Catholics truly believe in, just read the Nicene Creed. Our tradition and Church (in addition to Scriptural justification) helps us become closer to Christ, and to fulfill our beliefs in him, and God the Father. The Church is guided by the Holy Spirit, and though is full of sinners, will always be a force for good in this world.
126 posted on
06/21/2006 8:32:55 AM PDT by
Theoden
(Liberate te ex inferis)
To: IndyPatriot
However, I would say that any truth found outside the bible cannot contradict the Bible. So reason must be tested with Scripture to discern real truth. Therefore, if the Lord himself says, I am the narrow path, I cannot believe otherwise.Exactly right. No part of the Deposit of Faith can be contradictory, else they would not be inspired.
There is NOTHING in Catholic dogma that contradicts Sacred Scripture.
There is PLENTY in Catholic dogma that contradicts what some people believe about Sacred Scripture.
There is even more that is believed taught as Catholic dogma (but, upon investigation, is NOT Catholic dogma) that contradicts Sacred Scripture.
The trick is discerning the difference.
225 posted on
06/21/2006 11:11:33 AM PDT by
markomalley
(Vivat Iesus!)
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