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To: Shaun_MD

They were certainly imaginative in the way they got access, you got to give them that! If she spent 1 minute thinking about the use of fur in her clothing line then it was money well spent. And it was in NO WAY stalking. You confront the people with whom you have the issues and they have done a lot of that. Several designers have stopped using fur as they all should IMHO. And lastly, I don't think you can speak as to what they believe for a certainty. Give any opinion you like, just don't make it out to be a fact!!


47 posted on 06/21/2006 12:07:17 AM PDT by Rocco49
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To: Rocco49
They were certainly imaginative in the way they got access

Smells closer to FRAUD to me. I watched the video (why they were trying to hide and seemed to have successfully hidden) and felt badly for Beyonce and I'm not even a fan.

48 posted on 06/21/2006 1:40:16 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes with Angelides.)
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To: Rocco49
I am a fashion designer. And, I use butterflies - real butterflies - in all of my pieces.

I get ALOT of flack from ignorant people who are upset that I use real butterflies in my jewelry.

The fact is - ALL of the butterflies I use are farm-raised. Most of them, come from some of the poorest places in the world. I buy DIRECT from the indigenous peoples of the rainforests who raise them. Bfly farming provides a sustainable, renewable resource that does not require clear-cutting of the trees(as traditional farming does). In fact, it requires planting native flora in order to support the butterfly populations one is farming.

So, in essence, I make a product using bugs (that live about 1 week in nature - while, at the same time 99% never live at all as they are eaten - sucks being the bottom of the food chain). I am able to bring the beauty of butterflies to the masses (in stylish, trendy designs no less!) - while creating income for the some of the poorest people - while helping to save the rainforest plants and butterflies themselves (b-fly farming increases local populations) - and yet we STILL have idiots telling us how evil we are for killing those beautiful butterflies (usually while wearing leather shoes and a coat).

It is a win, win, win situation. It increases global wealth - while exacting minimum negative impact on the environment.

And, the most annoying part, to me, is the same self-righteousness ALL animal-rights people have.

For instance, in this case, 40 some people showed up to greet Beyonce. Where do they all live?? In houses - that were built on prime spotted turtle habitat.
How did they get there?? Using their cars - which killed about 100 insects per minute while driving - not to mention that the road was built over the last known habitat for the Silver bordered fritillary butterfly - so they are gone.


What were they wearing??? Oh, t-shirts imported from China - where they destroyed an entire mountainside to make room for the t-shirt factory, then dumped their effluvia into the nearest river - thus killing millions of fish and aquatic insects

But, the self-righteous hypocrites NEVER see any of this....so it is ok by them.

The ONLY way not to have an impact on this planet is to kill yourself - and even THEN you will have an impact.

So, my advice is...get over it. Animals are farmed for a reason. I personally raise about 1000 moths a year (mostly luna) and I feel bad with every bug that I kill ....more than ANY animal rights activist could know.

The difference is that I am a MAN. And, I will do what is needed to survive. Living requires dirty work. ANd, all those vegans who think they are saving animals are incredibly stupid as the farm needed to raise your veggies killed and continues to kill thousands of animals every day - and you all feel so smug, and better than everybody else - when, in reality, you kill as much as anyone - you just aren't human enough to overcome your dainty reservations about killiung - your rather do your killing and not have to face the organisms you killed. I look mine in the eye.

You tell me who is the more honest of us.

54 posted on 06/21/2006 4:52:14 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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