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Ann Coulter: Newsweek Lied - -Newsweek lied, the Truth dies !
NewsMax ^ | Friday, June 16, 2006 12:57 a.m. EDT | NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 06/17/2006 8:42:22 AM PDT by marc costanzo

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To: marc costanzo
I have been a widower for four years and seven months. Are any of the Jersey girls worth porking? I know Ann Coulter would be worth having her at one's side.
141 posted on 06/17/2006 11:19:46 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Phsstpok

Considering you think it is acceptable to accuse someone of "enjoying" a loved one's death, then quibble about the meaning of "enjoy", and then give tacit approval to vulgar suggestions about another's sexual morals, I'm rather glad I don't fit you criteria for "intellectual honesty."


142 posted on 06/17/2006 11:32:10 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: wolf24

Yes, I was thinking about this as I drove home from work, and I think I could evaluate this fairly since I am unwilling to approve of Ann Coulter's tactics in spite of the fact that she's on my side.


143 posted on 06/17/2006 11:34:12 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: Phsstpok

You are dismissed.

The Playboy comment was obviously meant as a means to extricate himself from the hole he (she?) had dug. 

Good for you. See tag line.

144 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:15 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: ahayes

you = your


145 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:20 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: Zon

What, you weren't aware that Ann Coulter said that?


146 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:39 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: ahayes

I guess I will have to buy her book soon. I haven't read any excerpts about what she is saying about evolution.

I am not a creationist, however I do believe that evolution requires leaps of faith similar to religion. Whether or not you believe evolution to be the best theory or not, it is still a theory, and requires us to be making best guesses to complete the theory. The scientist in me thinks that Evolution should be highly considered, but I do not agree that closing the debate as liberalism seems to require is correct. In this, I see the religion in the requirement for complete consensus. Let other theories arise, and better yet, perhaps decide not to decide yet.

Richard Feynman, one of my personal heros, had a great view of uncertainty. He said:

"I don't have to know an answer. I don't feel frightened by not knowing things; by being lost in a mysterious universe without any purpose— which is the way it really is, as far as I can tell, possibly. It doesn't frighten me."


147 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:42 AM PDT by Crazy Larry
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To: KJC1
So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"

No...drank the MSM Kool-Aid, did you?

148 posted on 06/17/2006 11:38:20 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: KJC1

alrighty...then nevermind.


149 posted on 06/17/2006 11:39:36 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ahayes

How embarrassing for you to say something that ridiculous.


150 posted on 06/17/2006 11:40:20 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Zon
Here you go:

"Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy." -- Ann Coulter, Godless

Having read your tagline, I'll await an apology.

151 posted on 06/17/2006 11:41:43 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: KJC1
en·joy Audio pronunciation of "enjoy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-joi)
v. en·joyed, en·joy·ing, en·joys
v. tr.

1. To receive pleasure or satisfaction from.
2. To have the use or benefit of: enjoys good health.

Read definition two. It fits perfectly. Since she wrote "enjoying" rather than "enjoyed," her sentence refers to what they are doing in the present as opposed to being happy about their husbands deaths that occurred in the past.

The celebrity, power and wealth they now ENJOY are the fruits of their husbands deaths. I'd say she got it exactly right.
152 posted on 06/17/2006 11:45:51 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: ahayes
I know what she said. It's obvious that your reference to it was a failed attempt to extricate yourself from the hole you dug. Then again, I may be wrong and you just don't have the mental acuity to see that the meaning/definition of the word "enjoy" is not a mere quibble, but rather, of great importance.

Your failed argument is based on a definition of enjoy that is different than the one Ann used. Your attempt to attribute to her what she did not in fact do is akin to you putting words in her mouth.

That places you in the intellectually dishonest camp or woefully ignorant. Which one? You chose.

153 posted on 06/17/2006 11:53:27 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: ahayes
Considering you think it is acceptable to accuse someone of "enjoying" a loved one's death, then quibble about the meaning of "enjoy"

 Ah, yes, to "quibble"

Definitions of quibble on the Web:

So, the actual meanings of words don't matter to you or the debate, so long as you are emotionally "on the right side?"  The rational of the hopeless liberal.  We have now established you intellectual bona fides.

and then give tacit approval to vulgar suggestions about another's sexual morals,

No, I just chose to ignore your idiotic attempt to divert from the "inconvenient truth," as your sainted AlGore would say. 

I'm rather glad I don't fit you criteria for "intellectual honesty."

You don't know the meaning of "is," let alone either "intellectual" or "honesty."

I repeat, you are dismisseed.

You are also now completely discredited, debunked, deflated, exploded, punctured and otherwise proved wrong.

You never engaged the argument, therefore you concede the argument.  You lose.

154 posted on 06/17/2006 11:54:35 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Zon; ahayes
Your failed argument is based on a definition of enjoy that is different than the one Ann used. Your attempt to attribute to her what she did not in fact do is akin to you putting words in her mouth.

You know, when you have to spend so much time telling us what the definition of "is", is, or, rather that "enjoy" means this, rather than that, it is you who have lost the argument.

If you have to explain it, it didn't work.

Do you laugh at a joke if it has to be explained to you?

155 posted on 06/17/2006 11:58:29 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Zon
You know that she suggested they go pose for Playboy and you think this was a good example of rational discourse?

I think Ann chose to use the word "enjoy" just as deliberately as Newsweek chose that particular headline. To think otherwise is, well, naive.

Do you really think that it is consistent to use the word "enjoy" meaning "benefit from" instead of "derive pleasure from" and then go make the Playboy comment? Do you think Ann is really being sensitive to the poor widows' feelings? Of course not! The attempt to water-down Coulter's rhetoric by saying, "Well, she didn't mean enjoy enjoy, she just meant enjoy," is just an attempt to assuage one's conscience. At least it shows that Ann Coulter's most avid fans feel some pricklings at her most venemous attacks.

156 posted on 06/17/2006 11:59:37 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: Phsstpok

See post 156. You are not being honest in equivocating over "enjoy." Bite the bullet--Ann Coulter said "enjoy" and she meant it.


157 posted on 06/17/2006 12:00:59 PM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: ahayes

Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy." -- Ann Coulter, Godless

Having read your tagline, I'll await an apology.

I know exactly what Ann wrote. In your 146 post you jumped to the wrong assumption that I didn't know what Ann wrote. Now you've compounded your error.

I'm waiting for you to admit your error of jumping to the wrong conclusion and then compounding your error. I need no apology from you. Nor do I want an apology from you because it would be meaningless. 

My tag line holds it's ground. Always. You did it to yourself.

158 posted on 06/17/2006 12:02:44 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Paladin2

"Enjoy" does not mean what many people think it means. However, here she does mean they perversely take pleasures in the fame that their husband's death has brought them.


159 posted on 06/17/2006 12:04:09 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Paladin2

"Enjoy" does not mean what many people think it means. However, here she does mean they perversely take pleasures in the fame that their husband's death has brought them.


160 posted on 06/17/2006 12:04:12 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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