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To: bornacatholic
I guess I'll do a few Annie-isms right here and see if it makes THIS thread go away.

Ann Coulter: 1. It's illogical.

Here's the theory. "Life on Earth is the result of common descent diversifying because of random heritable variation and natural selection."

How would this not happen? Where does it break down?

Does variation exist? Check. Even within small subpopulations, we're not all the same.

Is much of it heritable? Check. There is a tendency, but only a tendency, to breed true.

Does nature select? Check. Nature is very cruel to the lame, the poorly camouflaged, the disadvantaged.

Do conditions vary from place to place and time to time? Check to both. You can get varying conditions staying in one place or moving around.

A population expanding through space and time, meeting ever-varying conditions, is bound to be pushed and pulled by its environment to new adaptations.

2. There's no physical evidence for it.

"Ann, you ignorant slut!"

3. There's physical evidence that directly contradicts it.

Yeah, sort of, if you hang around on the Bible.CA and some other sites. Malachite Man, Carl Baugh's Cretacious miner's hammer, some faked footprints, some horrendously hopeful misinterpretations (like the Paluxy dino-and-man tracks) ...

Not a good penny in the bunch. Mostly frauds.

She could have meant something else, of course; she didn't say. But she's starting to look like she's bought the YEC nonsense, which would make her a real crackpot's crackpot. She'd better keep it a secret if so as that's more than most non-science-literate people are ready to swallow.

Apart from those three concerns I'd say it's a pretty solid theory.

Good! Then that's all dealt with.

116 posted on 06/14/2006 12:52:57 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: VadeRetro
"Ann, you ignorant slut!"

Apologies to whomever I stole that from.

117 posted on 06/14/2006 12:56:00 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: VadeRetro
From Bill Dembski's Uncommon descent Blog

Ann Coulter: The Wedge for the Masses

Having been a sounding board for Ann Coulter on chapters 8-10 of GODLESS, I’m happy to see the entire book now that it is out. Ann is taking Phillip Johnson’s message as developed in DARWIN ON TRIAL and REASON IN THE BALANCE and bringing it home to the masses. Critics will dismiss it for its hyperbole, lack of nuance, and in-your-face attitude. But she has the gist just right, which is that materialism (she calls it liberalism) dominates our culture despite being held by only a minority of the populace and has become an agenda among our elites (academy, scientists, media) for total worldview reprogramming. Close to half the book is devoted to science and evolution. I cannot help but feel that GODLESS will propel our issues in the public consciousness like nothing to date. Phil Johnson’s DARWIN ON TRIAL took ten years to sell 300,000 copies. I expect Ann will sell more than that in ten weeks.

*Via that site, one can access a lot of good material. Some of it is from men who are really pretty good pennies.

Dan Aykroyd: Jane, you ignorant slut! (said to news anchor, Jane Curtain, on Saturday Night Live)

124 posted on 06/14/2006 1:34:33 PM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: VadeRetro

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/category/intelligent-design/


125 posted on 06/14/2006 1:38:16 PM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: VadeRetro

http://www.discovery.org/csc/


127 posted on 06/14/2006 1:45:39 PM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: VadeRetro
But she's starting to look like she's bought the YEC nonsense, which would make her a real crackpot's crackpot. She'd better keep it a secret if so as that's more than most non-science-literate people are ready to swallow.

* LOL The appeal to snobbery and "expertise" is evolutionary liberalism in its final form .

Until just recently I have ignored all the Intelligent Design advocates are nutz and Creationists make THEM look sane exchanges, but, I have decided to do some digging around.

You're going to have to come-up with something more rhetorically lethal than a line of labels. All the Christians I know are not cowed by labels. In fact, when such labels are thrown-around, the Christains I know roll-up their sleeves and try to find out what the rhetorical fog bank is intended to hide.

129 posted on 06/14/2006 1:55:41 PM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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