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Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?
WorldNet Daily ^ | June 13, 2006 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 06/13/2006 6:08:39 AM PDT by conservativecorner

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To: cripplecreek
In a world without borders the laws have to mesh and I doubt that means the rest of the world will gain free speech or gun ownership. Quite the opposite I'm afraid.

Exactly my point in post #124.

141 posted on 06/13/2006 9:03:43 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

And it's also populated by those useful idiots who swallow every bit of politically correct rhetoric and propaganda hook, line and enchilada. I'm sure you probably believe the crap about Mexicans just wanting to come here and work (when they cost us tens of billions in welfare expenses), that Fox just wants an "orderly movement of people" (when we see the borders overrun with any # of rapists, murderers and drug dealers) and businesses need to hire Mexicans to do the "jobs Americans won't do" (the perfect cover story for American businessmen who want to evade payroll taxes as well as pay minimal wages to Mexican workers because they know taxpayers will be stuck with other employee living expenses.

The point is a small % of those shipments coming in from Mexico and overseas will even be checked by customs and what better way to distribute drugs and other contraband across the whole country than by having an inland port right in middle America.


142 posted on 06/13/2006 9:07:08 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Part of Article VI of the Constitution:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Does this clause place treaties on the same level with the constitution as the "supreme Law of the Land?" If so, does it not follow that there can be treaties which are inconsistent with the constitutional terms?

My concern is that a president will enter into a treaty, and 2/3 of the Senate will ratify it, an it will erode our constitutional rights. Has this issue been dealt with in the context of treaties which, for example, provide for trials that do not include our constitutional rights?

I am concerned that the various trade agreements made or to be made in the furre will be the route by which our national life is irreparably harmed.


143 posted on 06/13/2006 9:08:07 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: AmishDude

I see the cow dung fumes must've gotten to you.

Don't you have some hay to bale or something?


144 posted on 06/13/2006 9:08:14 AM PDT by sauropod ("Heaven on my left, Hell on my right and the Angel of Death behind me" - Dune)
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To: zeaal

I would suspect under this new alliance many of our rights would be trampled because the bill of rights is deemed too ancient to be of any use. People just laugh and laugh at this but tell me, the Elites that have pushed the EU through even though people have rejected it, it is highly probable that North America has elites of this mindset as well.


145 posted on 06/13/2006 9:12:13 AM PDT by Xenophon450 ("Study the past, if you would divine the future." - Confucius)
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To: Rockitz
The overarching truth is, in their worldview, it's a world of business and sovereign nations only serve to restrict business operations and ultimately, profits. Who needs borders? Free trade, cheap labor, and open borders for all! Yep, they're all one world government whores sold out to their big business constituents. That's the only explanation that is consistent with their actions over the last 20 years. In truth, they've all sold us down the river for big business and a one world government which will benefit.... you guessed it.... big business.

I strongly agree with you. Our political leaders in both parties and in both the executive and legislative branches have prostituted themselves to global business conglomerates, to the detriment of freedom and health of this nation and its citizens. All for the idolatrous worship of the almighty dollar. Anything for a buck.

146 posted on 06/13/2006 9:17:11 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: OB1kNOb

Here's the rub though: the so-called western "elites": the oligarchs, the greedheads, and the dreamers, are going to be relegated to the dustbin of history (where most of them belong) by coming world events in the years ahead.


147 posted on 06/13/2006 9:20:52 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: sauropod
Glancing at the asinine keywords, there appear to be lots of ostriches here.

It's easier for them to be ostriches than to accept the idea that the current occupant of the White House could be involved in such treachery against American workers/taxpayers. To many of them, he's a god who can do no wrong.

148 posted on 06/13/2006 9:21:32 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: MikefromOhio

You would think Kofi would have enough baggage of his own.


149 posted on 06/13/2006 9:26:22 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That's right, the Neeeeeewwwwww World Order.


150 posted on 06/13/2006 9:29:02 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
I think that the US will do by treaties what it could not do by constitutional amendments, all approved by the Senate, that will gradually erode our counstitutional rights. We will never be allowed to vote on this "Burkean accretions" which erode our rights.

Which explains why the House is at a complete 180 with the Senate on illegal immigration. The corporations know exactly who they have to buy off to ram their agenda through.

151 posted on 06/13/2006 9:29:02 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
You mean there is an organization!

With people in it!

And they have opinions!!!

It must be a conspiracy.

152 posted on 06/13/2006 9:29:48 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: houeto

Oh, no. You've found out the secret. The Trilateral Commission is -- gasp! -- an organization. Of people. With opinions. Lock the doors, Mabel.


153 posted on 06/13/2006 9:31:02 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: MikefromOhio

And a working group is?


154 posted on 06/13/2006 9:31:08 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Didn't read it. You mean someone issued a report? And the CFR was in on it? Well, that proves it right there. The whole world is going to be conquered by that cabal.

Doesn't it?

155 posted on 06/13/2006 9:32:51 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: jpl
Here's the rub though: the so-called western "elites": the oligarchs, the greedheads, and the dreamers, are going to be relegated to the dustbin of history (where most of them belong) by coming world events in the years ahead.

True. When it all gets resolved. However, in the meantime, it grieves me because in their demise, they'll take a lot of naive followers down with them that swallowed their vision of grandeur... hook, line, and sinker.

156 posted on 06/13/2006 9:34:47 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: sauropod
I see the cow dung fumes must've gotten to you.

As a matter of fact, I have not been affected by your posts, no.

157 posted on 06/13/2006 9:35:01 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: janetgreen
I was an ostrich about the mysterious Neeeewwwww World Order. How's that coming along? Poppy Bush let the whole conspiracy slip in a speech. (People said he was talking about the post Communism world, but we know better.) I mean, it's been over 15 years and no progress.

I guess they've had to go a different route.

I wish one of these conspiracies would take hold already. I want in on the ground floor.

158 posted on 06/13/2006 9:37:29 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: P.O.E.

P.O.E. wrote:


> The ultimate conspiracy theory - out in the open because no-one will believes conspiracies. <


Yes, the situation is almost exactly parallel to what the John Birch Society taught us so wisely about the Communists:

The more evidence one finds that somebody isn't a Communist, the more one can be sure that the person in question actually IS a Communist -- because Communists are so devilishly clever.

So for example, the fact that Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower never seemed to be a Communist is dispositive that he actually was. Q.E.D.

[Or at least that's how I remember the proof.]

And now that I think about it, was Eisenhower a secret member of the Bilderbergers?

[Oops, gotta run. A black helicopter just landed in my front yard.]


159 posted on 06/13/2006 9:39:19 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: AmishDude
I want in on the ground floor.

No surprise at all.

160 posted on 06/13/2006 9:40:09 AM PDT by janetgreen
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