[rcocean]

This is a great article by Pat. The "Pence Plan" is backdoor amnesty.

[Mr. Lucky]

Rep. Pence couldn't have dreamed of a more favorable endorsement than to be attacked by Pat Buchanan.

[Mo1]

Does Pat ever get tried of saying the same BS over and over?

[Shery]

I do like Mike, but this is a disaster of a plan. What is he thinking?

[MrCruncher]

Pat Buchanan, the arabs' best friend.

[Dane]

The crass and craven buchanan/tancredo tag team bring out the long knives for good conservative Mike Pence.

[CWOJackson]

Sure is nothing stealth about pat buchanan...that fat head and inflated ego of his probably has the radar cross section of the Hindenberg...another famous gas bag.

[Ikemeister]

I wrote to Pence and asked him a few simple questions about his plan. Predictably, I received no reply.

One big issue is: Who will pay for the social benefits for the guestworkers once they are here? Will their employers pony up for their health care costs, or will they continue to show up at the hospitals and clinics for taxpayer-funded treatment? Why should US taxpayers fund benefits migrants who are here to provide cheap labor for US companies?

[Nightrider]

are some of your responders here not fireing on all cylinders? exactly why all this venom for buchanan? i notice none of his attackers are actually debating his points.....

[A. Pole]

In "The Godfather," Don Corleone warns his son Michael that, after he dies, someone inside the family will come to Michael with an offer of peace from the Barzinis, who murdered Michael's brother. Whoever brings you the offer, Don Corleone warns his son, will have betrayed you. Tessio, lifetime friend and high-ranking captain of the Corleones, comes to Michael with Barzini's offer.

Bump

[rob777]

Although I see Rep. Pence's plan as an improvement over the Senate plan, there are some problems with it. One, is what seems to be a guarantee of returning after a quick trip home. I have no problem with them reentering the country legally, but would like to see them get in line with everyone else rather than being put on a fast track. The other issue is one of support. If we are going to issue a guest worker program so that employers can have access to cheaper labor, those employers should be responsible for supporting their guest workers, not the American tax payers. Finally, why do we need to pass a bill for a guest worker program. It would be much easier to tweak the existing H-1B, H-1C, H-2A, etc. Visas

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

REP. TOM TANCREDO'S FOUR-POINT PLAN FOR IMMIGRATION CONTROL

1. Secure our Nation’s Borders

Pence's plan passes H.R. 4437 first before any other immigration laws are considered

2. Establish a Genuine Guest Worker Program

Just like Tancredo, Pence also supports a limited guest-worker provision

3. Improve “Interior Enforcement” of Immigration Laws

Pence's bill cracks down on employers who violate the law and forces the administration to enforce existing immigration laws

4. Remove Incentives for Illegal Immigration

No path to citizenship for illegals. Illegals must go home to apply for guest-worker provision. Borders are secured and managed under the Pence plan

Pat Buchanan is being disingenous.

[AmericanInTokyo]

What we shall do, then, is institute the "PENCE WINDOW" at all consular (visa) sections of US Embassies and U.S. Consulates around the world.

"THE PENCE WINDOW"

The Pence Window: (Definitions and Concept)

Located at all USA Embassies and Consulates at the Visa Section, there shall be two windows. One shall be established--essentially they are already there--for foreign citizen applicants currently already in the legal process to emigrate to the United States, those who already initiated these procedures legally, adhering to Federal Immigration Law outside of the United States. I.e., those that had already submitted their paperwork to a US Consular Offical, or otherwise have no intention of illegally entering the United States through criminal tresspass and avoidance, but rather going through established channels at our diplomatic facilities overseas.

Such a window will be called "LEGAL IMMIGRANT WINDOW".

Currently, the long lines of individuals waiting days, weeks, months and years will continue to line up at that window.

Immediately NEXT to the "LEGAL IMMIGRANT WINDOW", shall be "THE PENCE WINDOW FOR FORMER ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/EXPRESS LINE"

Illegal immigrants to the USA who have returned to their country under the Pence Idea, shall line up in this special line. They shall have all documents, their current US identification, water bills, school tuition bills, etc. to show they have been living in the USA. At this window, they shall receive preferential treatment and will have their cases expedited in a mere THREE-TO-FIVE WORKING DAYS, whereupon they shall be granted guest visas to live and work in the United States, and so they can also quickly return to the United States as 'legal residents', no longer in the shadows.

The "LEGAL IMMIGRANT WINDOW" and lines for it shall be placed as close as possible to the "PENCE WINDOW/EXPRESS LINE" and the former illegal aliens lining up there.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>The forces in Washington pushing for an amnesty deal, by whatever name, are immense -- the White House, the ethnic lobbies, the Big Media, mainstream churches, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the "conservative" front groups and foundations they finance, and corporate contributors to congressmen who fear law enforcement. Then there is a Democratic Party that voted 10-to-one in the Senate for amnesty, as it looks to legalized aliens as future voters to bury the conservative cause forever in this city.

Buchanan is right on target. Bush, McCain and the other status quo politicos in DC are globalists of the first order. The America we all grew up in, the America created by our Founding Fathers is disappearing with each passing year. If the Feds have their way, one day Americans will wake up to find themselves living in a third world environment. Some folks believe that transformation has already started. A sad commentary on contemporary America.

[janetgreen]

The "Pence Plan" is backdoor amnesty.

There are new faxes up about this very subject, directed at Rep. Pence, at:

www.numbersusa.com

[MikefromOhio]

Nothing like having someone of Pat Buchanan's ilk to make me get on board with your plan.

Go Pence!!

[John Lenin]

This blow hard is so irrelevant he lost to Ralph Nader in election 2000.

[Spiff]

"Turn off the magnets, and the illegals will not come. Cut off the benefits, and they will not stay. In five years, the crisis will be over. "

Exactly.

[rdb3]

And with this, I'm sealed on the deal. Pence's plan is the way to go!

[Rosemont]

The Pence Plan is crap.