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US Marines Build Shrine To Islam
Front Page Mag ^ | 6/13/06 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 06/13/2006 4:51:14 AM PDT by Buffettfan

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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I agree that the United States has not, cannot and should not declare war on Islam.

Having said that, the Pentagon is seriously cracked on this one. Did you see the 60 minutes special on a Northern Virginia Salafi school?

The United States needs to use carrots and sticks to reward countries like Dubai and Iraq that are moving in the right direction and punish countries like Syria and Iran that are not.

Just imagine-- if a Democrat hadn't been elected president, we almost certainly wouldn't have had the current evil regime in Iran to deal with. If one hadn't been elected again, we would have had Bin Ladin in custody and 9-11 might not have occured. The biggest and best thing Americans can do in the WOT is to make sure Democrats aren't elected.

This is from a Sufi organization--- the kind of Islam the United States should encourage if it encourages any kind at all.

Today, leaders of Salafi organizations routinely use these critiques to turn Muslims away from the Sufi message... ...This tyranny can be observed even in liberal democratic countries such as the United States. The American Muslim, a widely distributed magazine published by the Muslim American Society of Falls Church, Virginia, contains an advice column in which a "Sheikh" named Muhammad al-Hanooti gives fatwas on various aspects of Muslim life and practice. In the September 2003 issue, a woman who has been approached by "a good Muslim man" for marriage inquires about her suitor's practice of Sufism (p. 38). She wonders about the suitability of a Sufi for marriage because she does "not want to end up with someone who does something wrong against Islam." Hanooti's response clearly illustrates the danger that Salafi ideas pose for Sufis who wish to remain active in their communities.... "In general, I would caution you against marrying a Sufi, for a great many of them do not have a good knowledge of Islam and are tilted toward lives of inconvenience." By counseling the woman to not marry a Sufi, Hanooti is in effect saying that Sufis are not Muslims and that the Qur'anic ban against a Muslim woman's marriage to a non-Muslim applies not only to the followers of other religions, but to Sufis as well.

The Salafi organizations from Falls Church are bad news. We should not be encouraging them in their intolerance and and hatred.

101 posted on 06/13/2006 6:18:44 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Buffettfan

Disgusting.


102 posted on 06/13/2006 6:19:23 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Allegra
That's a religious doctrine, not some nation's constitution.

Do you honestly believe that every single Muslim follows all of that? Even most of them?

They don't.

WHAT? Says who? You?

Is that why in Saudi Arabia that even possessing a Bible is punishable, by what, death is it? How many christians around the world in muslim controlled nations, of the ones that are left living that is, have the freedom to build churches and practice their christianity openly?

I'd suggest that you first gather some facts before chargine into battle naked son.

103 posted on 06/13/2006 6:19:24 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: Fruitbat
"In your world, I know I am there CWO."

Yes, in the military world your kind is not suffered lightly. And what is this BS about "W's butt"...are you so eaten up with your own hatred and prejudices you have to drag him into even this?

104 posted on 06/13/2006 6:19:49 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
You'll allow them to worship...outside.

Those were your words. And I asked, how do you know prior to the mosque being built that Muslim military men had to pray outside?

And, as I suspected, there are few if any temples for Jewish military.

http://www.mrff.blogspot.com/

105 posted on 06/13/2006 6:20:34 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

That says it all.


106 posted on 06/13/2006 6:20:45 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: prairiebreeze

I've read this charge before in other venues and was disturbed as well. Very disturbed.


107 posted on 06/13/2006 6:21:17 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: CWOJackson

"And I'll tell you what I know...in the previous article, not written by some knee jerk arsehole, it was plainly stated that it was for Marines. Peddle your crap elsewhere."

I'm a former Marine and I work on Quantico. I don't care what the media or PA says.....

because the media says it - it must be true, huh?


108 posted on 06/13/2006 6:21:41 AM PDT by MudPuppy (St Michael Protect Us!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
We're fighting a war against all of Islam?

Your point is well taken. As distasteful as this event is to most of us here on FR, we have to realize this war must be waged on more than one front, and as namby pamby as it sounds, winning hearts and minds has to be a part of it to prevent future generations from taking up arms against us. As for those who have already made their choices, we must utterly and completely destroy them.

109 posted on 06/13/2006 6:21:47 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: CWOJackson
You are not worthy of the dirt on a Muslim Marine's boots.

Ah yes, another well thought out comeback by you there CWO!

Keep talkin' partner. Again, anytime that you want to reconcile your admission of the "conflicts" in post #71 with your argument, which is entirely devoid of such explanation of those conflicts, do feel free.

Let me guess, your next post to me:

"I know you are but what am I!"

You amuse me CWO! Many others as well no doubt. Guerilla polemics. Nice!

; )

But again, great well-thought out response, again, to my posts!

110 posted on 06/13/2006 6:22:18 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Do you belong to junior high school debating society?

Your muslims stink.


111 posted on 06/13/2006 6:22:22 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Hornet19

Good question. Is there a separate shrine for Mormons and a separate synagogue for Jews at Quantico?


112 posted on 06/13/2006 6:22:26 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Sorry Mr. Jefferson, we forfeited the God given rights you all put to pen. We have no excuse.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
That's how you "fight" Islam!! By not allowing it to fester within your society!

Kind of like how Janet Reno didn't allow tghe Branch Davidians to fester within our society?

It was wrong what Clinton/Reno did, but you need to understand the point. Islam, is radical within itself. It looks to a God that is vengeful and Hatefilled against others who do, or do not believe. It is the antithesis of the American idea. Some of the kindest people I know are Muslims, but that doesn't mean the principles of their cultish religion are righteous by any means.

Hearts and Minds.

113 posted on 06/13/2006 6:22:34 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: MudPuppy

A former Marine...who has no respect whatsoever for Marines today. How strange.


114 posted on 06/13/2006 6:22:47 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Kolb

"We are not at war with all of Islam- we are at war with Islamic Extremism."

You make this distinction between Islam and "extreme Islam". What is extreme Islam, Kolb?

G.


115 posted on 06/13/2006 6:23:21 AM PDT by g_gunter
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To: Buffettfan

The only placed and reason they should be building one is on the firing range for target practice.


116 posted on 06/13/2006 6:23:40 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: Fruitbat
WHAT? Says who? You?

I give a reasoned response and I get this. Ahhh...another charmer. OK, I'll try to respond in kind, so you'll understand.

Yeah, says me. I've worked and lived in the Middle East for two and a half years and I'm still here. I believe that lends me a little credibiity.

What are your sources? CNN?

P.S. An entire region or religion does not Saudi Arabia make.

117 posted on 06/13/2006 6:24:22 AM PDT by Allegra (Mookie Sadr's Next!)
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To: Buffettfan

Very disgusting.


118 posted on 06/13/2006 6:24:25 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Fruitbat
"You amuse me CWO!"

You don't amuse me. Sitting on your fat ass behind your nice safe monitor and keyboard demanding that our U.S. military isn't entitled to the same freedom of religion you have.

A shame that good men and women sacrifice so much for a nation where even "you" get to enjoy so much they give up.

119 posted on 06/13/2006 6:24:57 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

How do you know that Muslims had to pray outside before this facility was built?

And you can see from that link I provided that few considerations are taken into account for Jewish soldiers. Darned few. It's been an ongoing battle for years.


120 posted on 06/13/2006 6:26:48 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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