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F-22 cleaning house at Northern Edge Alaskan exercise(news video)
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Posted on 06/11/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME

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To: AmericaUnited

Don't forget the external speakers !


21 posted on 06/11/2006 10:13:42 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

The F-22 is a much needed step forward into the twenty first century. I agree - cut some social spending and have around one thousand of those babies around. The F-22 doesnt need to be one of those items where you only have a handfull of them - that would be exceptionally bad for us.


22 posted on 06/11/2006 10:17:24 AM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: Redmen4ever
What if it is attacked by five planes having the capability of the F-16; would it even carry enough air-to-air missiles to defend itself?

Interesting you would ask that question. Here is the answer. The F-22 would destroy 4 of the 5 F-16s before they knew it was in the vicinity. The 5th would then have the choice of running, or engaging the most maneuverable fighter ever built. The Raptor has a gun, or did you know that? The odds are, the F-16 beats feet.

23 posted on 06/11/2006 10:23:03 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Redmen4ever

Umm Not this exercise but in a previous one 4 F-22's were sent to engage 33(yes 33) F-15's. The F-22's had zero losses. This also takes into account that they fired their BVR missiles and returned to base to re-up and go back and engage in the hot zone. The F-22 alone can engage multiple targets at once and fire its missiles,leaving the area of engagement before most fighters detect that they are being attacked. It is a great investment for this country.


24 posted on 06/11/2006 10:24:09 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Sorry a correction it was 8 F-22's not 4.


25 posted on 06/11/2006 10:25:22 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: 75thOVI

Pretty plane. Sadly, there will be a lot fewer of them if they ever engage an F-22.


26 posted on 06/11/2006 10:29:47 AM PDT by exDem from Miami
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Wonder why "they" don't design stealth missles.. and cruise missles?.. The radars wouldn't see them coming.. You know to go with the stealth design of the airframes of the planes..


27 posted on 06/11/2006 10:30:14 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Pukin Dog

Puking Dog, everytime I see a post from you, I am reminded of your classic "Delivering Flowers on Valentine's Day" thread. Are you looking foward to doing it again next year?


28 posted on 06/11/2006 10:30:26 AM PDT by dc27
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To: Redmen4ever

"Let's see ... the appropriately numbered F-16 costs about $16 million."

Nope, they come in right at what you list for the F-18, nowadays more than $50 million a pop. The F-22s are more than five times as expensive, but provide a capability that F-16s simply don't.

The F-35 should be a worthy F-16 replacement, I hope they get the per-unit cost down on that one.


29 posted on 06/11/2006 10:33:20 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: edpc; All

LOL is right!

I used to love that movie (Firefox) and "Red October" - until I realized something unusual about those movies.

Both movies showed the left's perceived SUPERIORITY of Russia and that Americans had to STEAL (which the dems know a lot about) technology in order to be a "super power".

REALITY is the exact opposite; it was Russia who had to steal from us to maintain a super power status - but still unequal to America's.


30 posted on 06/11/2006 10:33:24 AM PDT by CyberAnt (US Military: Raining fire from above for the freedom that we love!)
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To: Redmen4ever
BTT

This guy gets it, read what he has written again and again. Then apply it across our Military. We have a real problem with "Better being the enemy of good enough" (and Newer) and then only having a very small number of any of the better because we just cannot afford it. It is a real threat to National Security,

W
31 posted on 06/11/2006 10:36:33 AM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: hosepipe

They do look up JASSM its a stealthy cruise missile.


32 posted on 06/11/2006 10:37:25 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Raptor heritage flight vid.........

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:8dkBo9HR0XsJ:homepage.mac.com/lightningrodpictures/iMovieTheater33.html+/lightningrodpictures+raptor&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1


33 posted on 06/11/2006 10:38:14 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: dc27
I would never, ever do that again. Too much work.
34 posted on 06/11/2006 10:43:31 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: exDem from Miami

I don't think it'll be that sad, I'm figuring about a 1 for 1 exchange rate. (1 Sukhoi = 1 DFC).


35 posted on 06/11/2006 10:53:34 AM PDT by 75thOVI ((Limited time offer, your milage may vary, limited to US contestants only.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Thanks.. why not air to air stealth missles?..


36 posted on 06/11/2006 10:57:36 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: tet68
Don't forget the external speakers !

You mean for use in 'applying' the "Apocalypse Now" effect?

37 posted on 06/11/2006 10:58:07 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: CyberAnt

I have never thought of Tom Clancy, author of "Hunt for the Red October", as a Liberal.


38 posted on 06/11/2006 11:02:56 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Pukin Dog
The F-22 would destroy 4 of the 5 F-16s before they knew it was in the vicinity. The 5th would then have the choice of running, or engaging the most maneuverable fighter ever built.

I know what you're thinking... Did he shoot 4 air to air missiles, or 5? I know you can't see what I'm carrying inside my airframe, so you have to ask yourself... "Do I feel lucky?"

Well do ya'... Punk?


39 posted on 06/11/2006 11:13:45 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Truth is the new lie.)
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To: SlowBoat407

There have been many test combat missions in which one F-22 wastes 5 or 6 F16/15s without them even knowing where it was.

Even the best F15/16 pilots that argue over who's best will agree that they're toast in about 30 seconds with a 22.


40 posted on 06/11/2006 11:15:51 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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