Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill Bloats Welfare - Largest Expansion in 35 Years

Human Events ^ | June 5, 2006 | Robert Rector

[lone star annie]

They talk about how jobs are a magnet. What is a real magnet for the third world invaders is our bloated Welfare State.

This is to empower government and nothing more. Without an underclass you don't need all those government employees to administer the programs that serve them.

[P-40]

I'm getting a beating in another thread somewhat related to this

Granted I am in one of the states that has taken the brunt of the financial burden that is illegal immigration...but I know of no shortage of conservatives that are on the record about the problem. Their getting listened to is a recent phenomenon.

[gubamyster]

ping

[citizen]

I'm in total agreemwnt with Mr. Rector --- except he low-balled the extra costs to the Taxpayers, the direct payments will be much higher IMO.

Add in infrastructure related costs - more schools, hospitals/clinics, housing subsidies, child care subsidies, tuition for English learners, and more - and the total costs will eventually be a quarter Trillion/year if not higher.

[griswold3]

Or we could just make the "rich" pay more taxes.

[Rakkasan1]

at least we get to keep our cheap lettuce and fruit. that's all that really matters, you know.

just ask the Wall Street Journal.

[kellynla]

BTTT

[ANGGAPO]

Consider this if you want to be sick. If the Senate version is incorporated in the immigration bill we will have 6 million new residents, and if the Democrats get a majority in congress we all are going to be taxed to pay for it.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Illegals may know a little less about the way the Constitution works than you but you would not know it from your post. Is English your native language?

Savage is an idiot most likely a RAT plant to make conseratives look like screeching fools.

[P-40]

I think the reference was to the figures put out by the Heritage Foundation that were discussed on the Savage Show.

[Mr. Jeeves]

The first thing that popped into my mind was "anchor babies", keep em coming.

They are just having the babies that young American women won't have. ;)

But that isn't really a joke, because those who support the Senate bill are looking at actuarial tables and Social Security promises and cringing at where we are headed.

[panthermom]

They would pay social security, it would be taken our of their checks, just like the rest of us. On the flip side, they would get medicaid, wic, free breakfast and lunch at school, subsidized housing, foodstamps and then the kicker would be the Earned Income Tax Credit.

The woman I saw with all of those kids, if they were all born here, lets say $5000.00 per kid for prenatal care and delivery, if there were no complications. WIC for 1 year, that has to be worth another say $2000.00 (baby formula is so expensive that they have resorted locking it up in some stores). Free healthcare for the children until they are 18. Add education, which now we pay for breakfast and lunch. The amount that an anchor baby costs can never be reclaimed.

[P-40]

On the flip side, they would get medicaid, wic, free breakfast and lunch at school, subsidized housing, foodstamps and then the kicker would be the Earned Income Tax Credit.

They basically get some degree of those services now. Even programs they are not technically allowed to get into...well, let's just say the barriers to entry as far as documentation is concerned are a bit on the low side.

[panthermom]

Yes they do but after they are legalized they are eligible for all of it. I'm sure there is alot of other stuff they would get that I don't know about. It will become a nightmare. I live in a wealthy area, in one swoop of a pen, they redistricted the school cluster. One elementary school was effected by the change. It went from one of the best in our cluster, to flat broke, in one school year.

[RolandBurnam]

its called a typo, you jagoff. And we need more screeching fools and less phony conservatives, the country started going to hell under clinton, and bush hasn't reversed it, he has accelerated it. eff you.

[P-40]

after they are legalized they are eligible for all of it.

That is true...and hopefully our politicians are smart enough to figure this out. :)

[dennisw]

a must read

[P-40]

looking at actuarial tables

Does the government consider actuarial tables when looking at social security though. I suspect they just use a dartboard. When the 'gay marriage' debate was going on here I asked a politician what 'gay marriage' would do to some of our pension obligations; he had not thought about it.

[Safrguns]

Got this in my email today... thought it was relevant:

THESE ARE THE SENATORS WHO VOTED TO GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS. Grouped by Home State

Alabama:

Alaska:

Stevens (R-AK), Yea

Arizona:

McCain (R-AZ), Yea

Arkansas:

Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea

California:
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea

Colorado:
Salazar (D-CO), Yea

Connecticut:
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea

Delaware:
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea

Florida:
Martinez (R-FL), Yea

Georgia:

Hawaii:

Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea

Idaho:

Illinois:
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea

Indiana:
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea

Iowa:
Harkin (D-IA), Yea

Kansas:
Brownback (R-KS), Yea

Kentucky:

Louisiana:
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea

Maine:

Maryland:
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea

Massachusetts:
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea

Michigan:
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea

Minnesota:

Mississippi:

Missouri:

Montana:
Baucus (D-MT), Yea

Nebraska:
Hagel (R-NE), Yea

Nevada:
Reid (D-NV), Yea

New Hampshire:

New Jersey:
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea

New Mexico:
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea

New York:
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea

North Carolina:

North Dakota:
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea

Ohio:
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea

Oklahoma:

Oregon:
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

Pennsylvania:
Specter (R-PA), Yea

Rhode Island:
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea

South Carolina:
Graham (R-SC), Yea

South Dakota:
Johnson (D-SD), Yea

Tennessee:

Texas:

Utah:

Vermont:
Jeffords (I-VT), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea

Virginia:

Washington:
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea

West Virginia:
Rockefeller (D-WV), Not Voting

Wisconsin:
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea

Wyoming: