Posted on 06/05/2006 4:51:21 PM PDT by Spiff
"Its a good thing that the Senate Bill is not an amnesty bill then"
Give me a break. At least Reagan was man enough to admit that his bill was an amnesty bill, and look at where that got us.
The Bush/McCain/Kennedy bill is amnesty, period. Perhaps the Pence bill might be reasonable, but the Senate bill has bleeding heart liberal written all over it.
What does that have to do with him being re-elected time and time again?
Bush made a promise to dairy farmers in Wisconsin during the 2004 elections. Shortly after winning another squeaker he pushed to kill the spending from the budget. Hence, he broke a promise. Where was your anger then?
Bad logic, Texasforever. Let me break your argument down for you:
- Tancredo offers a solution.
- But he does not agree with someone else's solution.
- Thus he offers no solution.
Your argument doesn't work.
Just because he disagrees with someone else's solution does not invalidate the fact that he offers his own solution, which is to enforce existing laws first.
The house will offer up everything that is in the house bill PLUS MORE in the form of amendments in other house bills and the senate can either pass it or shut down the government.
I'm sure it doesn't matter to Tancredo or anyone else how the problem is fixed so long as it's fixed. As long as at the end of the day sinkspur and Ted Kennedy aren't happy, it's victory.
It's an election year sinkspur. Their butts are on the chopping block.
"It's an election year sinkspur. Their butts are on the chopping block."
Exactly. And the GOP politicians are figuring out that there are many conservatives (like myself) who will VOTE THIRD PARTY OR STAY HOME in November rather than vote for an amnesty-supporting RINO.
Border security/sovereignty is my #1 issue when deciding how to vote!
I just wish Tancredo will be more honest with what his goal is. Its basically a practical stop to legal immigration in this country. I started looking at the Web sites that are posted on here. The ones that have such high sounding names that imply they want to want to reform immigration. But there is an absense of something. There are no proposals to to make the immigration department more efficient. To make the backlog go away etc. This isnt a anti illegal immigration movement its an anti immigration movement period.
Tancredo in '08!
But, Tancredo will accept nothing but an enforcement bill. The Senate sent a clear signal that enforcement only is a non-starter.
The way things work in Congress is, the two Houses get together, take a little from this one, a little from that one, maybe come up with some things in neither bill, and there's your compromise.
It is extremely rare that one bill passes with no modifications, unless it is something like the marriage amendment or flag burning amendment, neither of which stands a ghost of a chance of passing but are mere vehicles to pander to the base.
And the House GOP has a bulls-eye on its back if there is no bill.
Then we just need to reinforce the message to the House GOP:
STAND YOUR GROUND! Do not cede conservatism to RINOs like McCain.
I have been praying for our leaders to have the wisdom to secure our borders and protect the sovereignty of our nation. Perhaps if we all join in that prayer, it will be answered.
Been taking classes in LibSpeak 101 lately? That was a classic "avoid the actual issue and delve into innuendo and character assassination" maneuver. Rep. Tancredo is one of the few Republicans left that actually has an identifiable backbone.
I see your tag line says put the military on the border. The first troops are starting to show up. Are you happy?
And who will get blamed? Republicans. Who is more exposed? The House.
Attaching amendments to bills means they will go to conference and get dropped by the conferees.
Sorry not Amnesty. Call it a plea deal, a preference, or affirmative action if you want. Those words have negatives too among focus groups but its more honest to what it is.
Exactly. And no bill is much worse than a compromise bill.
I don't think God is too interested in borders since he didn't create the world with them.
It's a good first step.
And truth be told... I am 100% confident that if it weren't for the intense pressure from grass roots conservatives, Rush, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, etc.... the National Guard wouldn't be headed to the border.
So true!
So you are not happy. Figures.
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