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To: puroresu
Can you even imagine a place with gay "marriage" being fiscally conservative?

Yes, in fact -- if such a place existed, they would certainly not have the govt tell people who they can spend their life with.

But I don't think I know of a place that is actually 'fiscally conservative' anymore. Do you?

I'm a political C. That means I don't believe in social engineering by the federal govt.

Social Cs who are Political Ls are what dominates the party now. So I am certainly not an R anymore. I *was*, back during the 'contract with america' days. But that was about "politics", not telling people what is "for the good of society".

223 posted on 06/05/2006 5:31:56 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
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To: Dominic Harr

####Yes, in fact -- if such a place existed, they would certainly not have the govt tell people who they can spend their life with.####

Such a place will never exist. It's why every place you can think of where there's strong support for gay "marriage" (Holland, Sweden, Canada...) is also very socialistic, has lots of gun control, speech codes, etc.

BTW, how does opposing gay "marriage" have anything to do with who someone spends their life with?

####But I don't think I know of a place that is actually 'fiscally conservative' anymore. Do you?####

I'll have to agree with you on that one, though the places that are socially liberal tend to be the most socialistic.

####I'm a political C. That means I don't believe in social engineering by the federal govt.####

That's why I oppose judges changing the 5,000 year old definition of marriage. It's social engineering. And once we have gay "marriage", we'll have gay adoption, gay school curricula, hate speech laws, churches being punished by government for refusing to marry gays, more anti-discrimination laws telling people who they can hire or who they can rent their upstairs bedroom to. We'll have laws forcing restaurant owners to allow gay kissing on their property (they just passed this in England, where pubs are now required by law to permit this). We'll have private clubs membership practices being reviewed by government. We'll have to spend more taxpayers' money to provide benefits to gay couples. It'll be an explosion of government power and social engineering.


240 posted on 06/05/2006 6:32:01 PM PDT by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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