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To: kellynla
Just as you need to get in the other team's end zone, you need to keep them out of yours.

Let me count how many successful attacks there have been against us since the GWOT started on 9/12/2001, the official "start of the game" to use your football analogy:

ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. None. Zip.

So here we are just shy of five (5) years later. We have killed thousands of terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq, captured god knows how many more both home and abroad. And you believe this article which states we are not playing defense?

THEY HAVE NOT SCORED A POINT ON US IN 5 YEARS! Does that sound like a bad defense to you?

If you want to argue illegal immigration in terms of finance, social unrest etc...thats fine and I agree. If you want to couch it in Homeland Security terms, and then claim immigration to be part of our pourous defense, then you are being willfully ignorant. The facts disagree with you.

10 posted on 06/04/2006 7:40:57 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Bill Clinton could have made the same claim - honestly - in 1998, at about the same time he turned down Sudan's offer to turn over Bin Laden.


21 posted on 06/04/2006 8:38:19 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: Personal Responsibility

"Let me count how many successful attacks there have been against us since the GWOT started on 9/12/2001, the official "start of the game" to use your football analogy:

ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. None. Zip."


This ia the one part of the 'War on Terror", that has always bothered me.

It is beyond reason to think that our government, which can't even begin to get a handle on countless tons of drugs coming into the country every single year, has been able to stop EVERT SINGLE jihadi effort and plot against us.

I realize that the Muslims are probably focused on Iraq and Afghanistan. Good.

Nevertheless, if they were actually making a serious effort to harm us HERE, they would have had at least some successes in the past five years, no matter how efficient the government was at trying to stop them.

They appear to be one hit wonders. Shot off everything they had on 9/11, and don't have anything left in the tank.

Individual fruitcake muzzies blew away a few folks at LAX, and terrorized the DC area for awhile.

You would think that any organized Al-Queda types would have been able to do this, and a lot more, even if 95% of their people and plots had been identified and stopped.


29 posted on 06/04/2006 9:49:28 AM PDT by coladirienzi
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