Platonic dialectic (see: http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Anci/AnciFort.htm)
Re: Mike Adams' dialectic
Conversation 2
Q: Oh, I just love that book. Have you read about the Council of Nicea and how they conspired to keep out the Gnostic Gospels? It was all so political the way they choose the Books of the Bible, don’t you agree?
A: No.
Q: Well, why not?
A: I’ve read the Bible seven times, the New Testament ten times, and all of the so-called Gnostic Gospels.
Q: And what have you concluded?
A: The New Testament books were selected long before 325 A.D. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were either written by eyewitnesses or on the basis of eyewitness evidence. The Gnostic Gospels were not. In addition to being incoherent fragments, they were written many, many decades later....
Jude 14-15 "Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, 'Behold, the Lord comes with 10,000 of his saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.'"
Adams' logical problem: The following prophecy quoted in Jude is not found in the Bible. It is neither in the Old or New Testament. It is cited from The Book of Enoch--a gnostic scroll. Ergo, the original scroll has been redacted out of the New Testament.
Perhaps Mike Adams should consider a basic class in logic when writing. Adams employs logical fallacies of Petitio Principii and Argumentum ad Verecundiam: I read the Bible 7 times therefore what I opine concerning the gnostic gospels must be true. Mike, just because one reads the Bible a thousand times a thousand one can still be dead wrong on catholic redaction. The Catholics redacted the New Testament and the Jewish scribes redacted the Old Testament. These are undisputed facts by all biblical experts.
"The Catholics redacted the New Testament and the Jewish scribes redacted the Old Testament. These are undisputed facts by all biblical experts." Not true - the tenants of the faith had been established and submitted to the church long before the Catholic influence began corrupting the teachings of the Messiah.
The Jewish scribes translated the OT into the Septuagint long before Jesus' time. All of the very first converts to the new covenant were Jewish even three thousand in one day on the day of Shavuot (Pentecost) in Acts 2.
Dan Brown's book is bunk and I wouldn't want to be in his shoes when he faces the Master on the day of reckoning.
The Catholics redacted the New Testament and the Jewish scribes redacted the Old Testament. That's bizarre since the New Testament canon was settled before there was such a thing as the Roman Catholic Church. Maybe you just mean the early church fathers redacted the New Testament by excluding the Gnostic gospels etc. from the canon. That's correct and for good reason. There's nothing whatsoever to connect them with the time of Jesus. They are also often incomprehensible and weird.
No one's disputing that things were excluded from the New Testatment. The issue is the reason. He's disputing that it was done on a political basis.
Jewish scholars exluded the Apochrypha from the Old Testament because it was found to have errors and was therefore not scripture. It was concluded it was not divine in origin although events chronicled in it probably happened.
It is cited from The Book of Enoch--a gnostic scroll. Ergo, the original scroll has been redacted out of the New Testament.
Waah? The Book of Enoch was written long before both Gnosticism and the New Testament. It has nothing to do with Gnosticism. How could it be redacted from the New Testament? I believe The Book of Enoch is considered by scholars as having some validity but doesn't qualify as scripture.