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"Because you seem to frame everything you disagree with as ignorance and foolishnness, I already said we'd never reach agreement."

But you have done nothing to counter my arguments. Velikovsky's claims have not in any way be validated. He was a nut.

"Again, no."

Yes, it is. You changed the subject because you couldn't answer what I said.

"It is, however, instructive as to the nature of scientific suppositions. In more personal terms, you'll kindly recall that you stated "[t]he researchers found NOTHING resembling raw meat." In fact, according to the journal Science, they did."

No, they didn't. You are quoting answersingenesis, not Science. The journal Science did not say that the researchers found anything like raw meat. AIG lied. As usual.

"The point I'm bringing home is that science and famous FReeper scientists are full of contradictions, hubris and error and as I said before, no different than any other human agency."

And the point I made is that you are dead wrong.

Velikovsky, with whatever illustrations he chose to use, tendered the radical idea that the earth was shaped through agents of catastrophe rather than uniformitarian processes. I don't disagree with that and the thread article echoes it. You seem to reject anything the man said and we simply won't reach consensus. 'Nuff said.

Now, regarding the T-Rex issue...

I don't have access to the cited article, but here is the synopsis from the website:

"Soft tissues are preserved within hindlimb elements of Tyrannosaurus rex (Museum of the Rockies specimen 1125). Removal of the mineral phase reveals transparent, flexible, hollow blood vessels containing small round microstructures that can be expressed from the vessels into solution. Some regions of the demineralized bone matrix are highly fibrous, and the matrix possesses elasticity and resilience. Three populations of microstructures have cell-like morphology. Thus, some dinosaurian soft tissues may retain some of their original flexibility, elasticity, and resilience."

This, at 68 million years, is close enough to meat to abandon rhetorical pretense and parsing - you know exactly what I mean. This find is, at the core, beyond comprehension, man. 68 million years! New stories will have to be tendered - and soon. Paraphrasing Dr. Schweitzer, it stands current explanations on their ears. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time that science had pull new explanations out of their butts so I'm certain that they'll know just how to do it.

A pleasant evening to you, Sir!