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Moderate Republicans struggle to hold on
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/30/06 | Devlin Barrett - ap

Posted on 05/30/2006 12:02:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. - Moderate Republicans are off and running in the summer horse racing town of Saratoga Springs and other upstate New York cities, struggling to save their jobs and a dying political breed.

In a party dominated by conservatives, the last of the Northeast GOP moderates face several daunting election-year trends, including a strong top of the Democratic ticket in statewide races and growing discontent with President Bush, the Iraq war and the Republican-controlled Congress.

New York has always preferred its Republicans in the mold of the late Gov. Nelson Rockefeller — socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

"We don't send right-wingers to Congress," said Republican Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (news, bio, voting record), whose retirement after 12 terms creates a competitive open seat in central New York.

Rockefeller's tenure as governor ended in 1973, his brief, Watergate-generated time as Gerald Ford's vice president in 1977, and while the notion of "Rockefeller Republicans" lived on, the number of GOP moderates has dwindled some 30 years later.

In states such as Connecticut, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, moderate Republicans are trying to remain more relevant than other '70s icons like disco music and white suits. Eight Republicans in those states are facing tough races.

In New York, a half dozen House incumbents are fighting off Democratic attempts to fuse them to Bush, whose approval rating stands at just 22 percent in the state. They hope that the party can get past its internal feuding to settle on candidates for senator and governor, and avoid no-shows at the polls in the fall.

"Getting out the vote is going to be critical, and we anticipate turning the spigot on 100 percent because in these congressional races that's going to be key," said Bob Smith, the Republican chairman in Onondaga County.

Dominating the election ballot are two Democratic heavyweights — New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is seeking a second term, and Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, the favorite in the governor's race. Three-term Republican Gov. George Pataki, his eyes on the White House, decided not to seek another term.

Polls show Clinton and Spitzer with large leads over their little-known Republican rivals in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by nearly 2-to-1. In addition to two Democratic senators, Democrats hold 20 House seats to nine for the GOP.

The state GOP worries that economic setbacks coupled with the statewide realities could give Republicans little incentive to vote on Nov. 7.

"I'm extremely pessimistic," said Todd Finzer, a 38-year-old employee at a Greece, N.Y., sign company in a region hard hit by the loss of manufacturing jobs. "I feel like we're walking on a razor, that's what it feels like. It's just a house of cards ready to go boom."

The father of five and self-described Christian conservative voted twice for Bush but doesn't support him now.

"Ever since I was young, I was conservative, and I'm sloooowly listing to the left," said Finzer, who said he's unsure who he'll vote for this year or if he'll even bother.

A prime target for both parties is Boehlert's open seat in New York's 24th Congressional District, which includes parts of the Finger Lakes and the cities of Utica and Rome. Among Republicans, state senator Raymond Meier leads the field, while Democrats have settled on Oneida County district attorney Michael Arcuri. The primary is Sept. 12.

Teacher Jonathan Parks of Cortland, N.Y., said he would vote for the candidate most like Boehlert.

"I thought he handled himself very well. I thought he voted not only his party but he voted his conscience," said Parks, a registered independent who usually votes Republican.

In the bedroom communities around the state capital of Albany, four-term Republican Rep. John Sweeney (news, bio, voting record) faces a tough challenge from lawyer Kirsten Gillibrand. The Democrat has tried to appeal to the older generation of Rockefeller Republicans.

"They don't agree with this administration at all. They don't agree with the lack of fiscal discipline. They don't agree with the right-wing agenda on social issues," Gillibrand said in her bid for the 20th Congressional District seat.

Sweeney recently enlisted the help of Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona, the White House hopeful who brings star power but none of the baggage of Bush. At a fundraiser not far from Saratoga's famous racetrack, McCain warned of a tough election season and said the threat to Northeast moderates could drive a geographic wedge through U.S. politics.

"I believe the Republican Party should be a national party not a regional one," McCain said.

Democrats ridiculed Sweeney about a month ago when the 50-year-old father of three showed up at a college fraternity party at 1 a.m.

Dave Hill, a Democratic-leaning voter from Ballston Spa, said he thought the criticism was a cheap shot. Of greater concern, Hill said, is how much longer U.S. troops will be in Iraq.

"I'm not totally against the war personally, but at some point I'd like to see a plan of how to get out of there," Hill said.

The wild card in the Sweeney race is the congressman's health. He was hospitalized in February with life-threatening high blood pressure and inflammation of blood vessels in his brain. He has undergone further medical tests but now declines to discuss his health.

In the western part of the state, four-term Rep. Tom Reynolds, who also heads the national House Republicans' re-election effort, faces a repeat challenge from businessman Jack Davis. The 26th Congressional District, which includes suburban Buffalo and Rochester, has lost many manufacturing jobs.

Davis favors trade protectionist policies for U.S. industry. The argument about the economy may get more intense as auto parts maker Delphi Corp., the largest employer in Niagara County, tries to work its way out of bankruptcy.

Delphi has said it intends to keep open its plants in the county and in nearby Rochester. However, the largest Delphi union is preparing for a possible nationwide strike to defend jobs and wages.

Other incumbent Republicans drawing more heat from Democrats this year are Rep. Randy Kuhl, a first-term lawmaker who won 51 percent of the vote in his Southern Tier district that includes Elmira and Corning, and Rep. Sue Kelly (news, bio, voting record), whose Hudson Valley district north of New York City has changed demographically due to an influx of liberals from the city.

In his Syracuse-based district, nine-term Republican Rep. James Walsh (news, bio, voting record) also is under siege. GOP officials argue that voters will stick with the longtime moderate Republicans they know despite the national trend.

"I think everyone's getting a very clear message that this war is wearing thin, but I don't hear people telling me Jim Walsh is responsible for going to war," Smith said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: NormsRevenge
"Ever since I was young, I was conservative, and I'm sloooowly listing to the left," said Finzer, who said he's unsure who he'll vote for this year or if he'll even bother.

Strange. As time goes on, I'm growing ever more conservative. I am getting to the point where I would like to see every welfare office dynamited, and the majority of government spending to be made on guns and bombs to wipe Mecca off the face of the earth.

Experience teaches the observant that government only does one thing really well - destruction. Best that's applied to our enemies. Experience also teaches that government is not there to dispense "goodies", it is there to enforce the rule of law. It's peculiar some people seem to be "unlearning" over time.

Regards, Ivan

21 posted on 05/30/2006 12:20:48 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: NormsRevenge
So when is the AP going to run a story about the moderate Joseph Lieberman and how the extreme left is stabbing him in the back?

Why should Republicans have to water down their agenda and become moderate anyway?

22 posted on 05/30/2006 12:22:28 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: NormsRevenge

The RINOs still have most of the money, though. That's how they hold on.


23 posted on 05/30/2006 12:23:20 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: NormsRevenge
Wonder when we shall see some articles on "moderate democrats". Oh that's right, they are all moderates. I sure wish they would use the term "moderate democrat" as much as they do "moderate republican". Then at least they would be insinuating that there are as many extreme dimos as they perceive to be extreme repubs.
24 posted on 05/30/2006 12:25:40 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: A.Hun
Conservatives won't win...Dems will.

Tell that to Reagan in 1980 and the GOP Congress in 1994.

25 posted on 05/30/2006 12:25:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"So when is the AP going to run a story about the moderate Joseph Lieberman and how the extreme left is stabbing him in the back?"

Lieberman talks a bit like a conservative but his votes always tilt liberal. Unless he changes party affiliation I will basically ignore him...all talk and no action.


26 posted on 05/30/2006 12:25:54 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: NormsRevenge

Buh Bye!


27 posted on 05/30/2006 12:27:35 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: NormsRevenge
"They don't agree with the right-wing agenda on social issues," Gillibrand said in her bid for the 20th Congressional District seat.

BS. What social "issues" is she talking about? In truth, she means not "issues" but "issue": as in abortion. Liberals are slowly losing that battle, and it terrifies them.

28 posted on 05/30/2006 12:27:36 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: NormsRevenge
"Sweeney recently enlisted the help of Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona, the White House hopeful who brings star power but none of the baggage of Bush.

"Treasonous John" McCain has his own sack of negative "baggage that is far bigger than Bush's.

"At a fundraiser not far from Saratoga's famous racetrack, McCain warned of a tough election season and said the threat to Northeast moderates could drive a geographic wedge through U.S. politics."

How about a stake through the hearts of the RINOS??? Far better than a wedge.

29 posted on 05/30/2006 12:28:40 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: NormsRevenge

Time to step on their fingers, watch them fall and not look back! For their will always be more being born like Graham and Brownback to fight off.


30 posted on 05/30/2006 12:29:27 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: John Jorsett
...remind(s) me of a line from some action movie I once saw: "I like you. I'm going to kill you last." That's pretty much the attitude the Democrats have toward them.

I believe that line was delivered by Arnold Schwarzenneger in "Commando". He should take heed of that advice.

31 posted on 05/30/2006 12:30:11 PM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: andy58-in-nh

"Liberals are slowly losing that battle, and it terrifies them."

Apparantly it also terrifies backstabbing RINO's and GOP squishes who keep throwing them a rope to hang on.


32 posted on 05/30/2006 12:30:32 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: NormsRevenge

To all the moderate republicans out there - don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out this November.

Do us all a favor and join your liberal buddies, you're just filling up a place a good conservative could occupy. You'll feel better, you won't feel so much personal guilt being openly liberal, and we'll feel better because you'll be wearing your true colors and admitting what you are.

And isn't that the most important thing, that people accept themselves for 'who they are'?


33 posted on 05/30/2006 12:33:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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Truth is, without these moderate Republicans holding their blue state seats, the Democrats will take power and the result of that will be midnight basketball, cut and run in Iraq followed by nerve gas attacks in Dallas malls, pro abortion maneuverings, pro gay marriage maneuverings, gun confiscation and a more open border policy than any yet proposed.

There is no way around this. It is reality.


35 posted on 05/30/2006 12:35:50 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Secret Agent Man

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To all the moderate republicans out there - don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out this November.

Do us all a favor and join your liberal buddies, you're just filling up a place a good conservative could occupy. You'll feel better, you won't feel so much personal guilt being openly liberal, and we'll feel better because you'll be wearing your true colors and admitting what you are.
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Guy, there is a primary for every one of these seats in New England. If a conservative could persuade the voters to select him over the incumbent, then he'd have his shot. If he is not successful in that persuasion, the fault is ENTIRELY his. His failure to persuade blue state liberals of the superiority of his philosophy is his. It is not the party's and it is not the voters'.

Without these seats we'll have gun confiscation, gay marriage and pro abortion maneuverings at every turn of the clock.

This is reality and there is nothing you or I can do about it.

You play to win or you cross your arms, stay home and forfeit the game.


36 posted on 05/30/2006 12:39:15 PM PDT by Owen
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To: tflabo
It also terrifies backstabbing RINO's and GOP squishes who keep throwing them a rope to hang on.

Exactly right. A true Conservative, that is to say, one who opposes unrestricted abortion as immoral and cruel, cannot win election to national office in most Northeastern states. My state (NH) may still be an exception, but I doubt it.

37 posted on 05/30/2006 12:40:34 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Joe Lieberman is considered extreme in his own party these days. we live in wierd times. lol


38 posted on 05/30/2006 12:41:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Last time I checked, they had won...


39 posted on 05/30/2006 12:42:32 PM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: NormsRevenge

moderate Republican = liberal, a--kissing, spine-challenged Republican.


40 posted on 05/30/2006 1:12:02 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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