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To: jmc1969
He sums it nicely as to why we are there ....and it isn't irrational optimism..

But what did 2,400 brave and now deceased Americans really sacrifice for in Iraq, along with thousands more who were wounded? And what were billions in treasure spent on? And what about the hundreds of collective years of service offered by our soldiers? What exactly did intrepid officers in the news like a Gen. Petreus, or Col. McMaster, or Lt. Col Kurilla fight for?

First, there is no longer a mass murderer atop one of the oil-richest states in the world. Imagine what Iraq would now look like with $70 a barrel oil, a $50 billion unchecked and ongoing Oil-for-Food U.N. scandal, the 15th year of no-fly zones, a punitative U.N. embargo on the Iraqi people—all perverted by Russian arms sales, European oil concessions, and frenzied Chinese efforts to get energy contracts from Saddam.

The Kurds would remain in perpetual danger. The Shiites would simply be harvested yearly, in quiet, by Saddam’s police state. The Marsh Arabs would by now have been forgotten in their toxic dust-blown desert. Perhaps Saddam would have upped his cash pay-outs for homicide bombers on the West Bank.

Muammar Khaddafi would be starting up his centrifuges and adding to his chemical weapons depots. Syria would still be in Lebanon. Washington would probably have ceased pressuring Egypt and the Gulf States to enact reform. Dr. Khan’s nuclear mail-order house would be in high gear. We would still be hearing of a “militant wing” of Hamas, rather than watching a democratically elected terrorist clique reveal its true creed to the world.

But just as importantly, what did these rare Americans not fight for? Oil, for one thing. The price skyrocketed after they went in. The secret deals with Russia and France ended. The U.N. petroleum perfidy stopped. The Iraqis, and the Iraqis alone—not Saddam, the French, the Russians, or the U.N.—now adjudicate how much of their natural resources they will sell, and to whom.

Our soldiers fought for the chance of a democracy.

11 posted on 05/29/2006 2:53:12 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

The administation today sadly has almost zero public credibility on Iraq because facts on the ground don't meet up with expectations set up for them before and after the war.

It shouldn't be this way and I understand you and the administation were just trying to show things are going good and we are doing a good job and we are going to win.

We are going to stabilize Iraq, but it is going to be long and very bloodly. Stabilizing Iraq will help the entire world and will usher in a new era in the Middle East. I am 100% sure that certain people in the White House wish to God not that they could go back and have stopped the invasion of Iraq, but that they could go back and change their PR strategy back in 2003.


15 posted on 05/29/2006 3:12:45 PM PDT by jmc1969
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