[HitmanLV]

It's one thing with it just a few polls and it is within 10 points. But this is way too much to explain by bias pollsters.

I've been turned off by the wholesale Freepdom denial of polls. Any one poll is suspect. Look at a dozen polls for some consistent message and more often than not, you get a meaningful measure of the political landscape.

Many Freepers are too young to recall the Clinton Impeachment. Poll after poll showed very low support for removing Clinton from office. Freepdom insisted all the polls were wrong. Of course, it was the Freepers who were wrong.

Clarity is often scarce on FR, I admit.

[NYC Republican]

We're on the same page. For a while, I also bought the BS FR comments that the MSM has lost its ability to influence people... Just the contrary, as conservative voices sprouted up, the leftist media just turned it up that much more...

What's the ratio of people who get their news in 30 second sound-bites from the evening news (on alphabet channels),or lib newspapers vs. Fox/Internet? If I was a betting man, I'd say 5-1, at least.

The MSM is still all powerful.

[pollyannaish]

FWIW Hitman, I think in general you are correct. While I do find some polls somewhat specious, I think you can pretty effectively use them to gauge overall trends.

Where bias is clear is in the obsession with "plummeting polls" when it's related to Republicans and absolute silence when the polls rise. The reverse appears to be true, since Clinton's "no one cares about impeachment" polls were trumpeted...but we rarely heard about it when they were falling—and if we did it was generally blamed on an electorate that wasn't paying attention.