[Prokopton]

"they are between a rock and a hard place (not that I favor the amnesty mind you).

while its true that alot of white and african american Democrats do not favor amnesty, or the kinds of new immigrant numbers this bill would allow in - are those blocks willing to change their votes and go republican over this issue?

The Dems are clearly betting that their current base, will not switch parties over amnesty and new mass immigration.

Which side is right?"




We (Republicans) had the majority. We didn't need Democrats to change sides we only needed to retain the majority who elected a Republican House, Senate and President. The idiots in Washington have squandered the majority we had by worrying more about appeasing Ted Kennedy than they did about their conservative base. With the millions of new illegal alien Democrats it will no longer make any difference. The Republicans have slit their own throat.

[oceanview]

well, let's hold on - nothing has passed yet.

but what I am saying is (hypothetically) - suppose there is a segment of current hispanic americans, who voted republican, who will switch to the Dems if the republican party stands for border enforcement and no amnesty - where are we going to go to "replace" those votes?