[rbg81]

The GOP is in trouble because the President and many key senators have betrayed their base. Period. If they had the guts to enforce the law in the first place, many of these Hispanic voters wouldn't exist. Contributions from companies wanting cheap labor won't help bring back the base this time.

[nicmarlo]

Ping

[Soul Seeker]

Uh-huh, and nice of them to conveniently ignore the fact all Hispanics don't think alike on the issue. There is a strong minority that wants strict enforcement.

Nice try.

[Dale 1]

So Mexicans elected Vicente Fox in their own country - who will they elect here? I'm sure it won't be anyone smarter or more honest then Fox.

[TheLion]

Since most Latino Americans don't want the USA to be over-run by millions of more illegals, Bush could have won everyone's respect by closing the border. Now it is getting messed up and confused. Do conservative things and you will have no problem.

I had a lengthy conversation with a die-hard liberal in my town today and she is upset about the invasion.

I think Republicans have let a great opportunity go by the wayside.

Bush doesn't need to choose, he needs to do what is right, and that is to close the border from further invasion.

[George W. Bush]

If Bush is forced to choose, and goes with his conservative base, he likely writes off the chance of a 40% or more GOP Hispanic vote share for decades, and the result will be similar to what happened in Califronia after Pete Wilson’s immigration referendums (a 20% GOP voting share of Hispanics).

Again, this is false. Wilson did not cause the changes. It was California's failure to implement Prop 187 that caused that. Wilson had strong support as has every other anti-illegals candidate.

hat spells big trouble for the GOP all over the country. Hispanics were 7% of national vote in 04, and will likely be 9% in 08. This group split 4 to 3 of the 7% in 04. If they split 7 to 2 or 6 to 3 of the 9% in 08, the GOP could be toast in the Presidential race. We could be seeing the end of the GOP’s dream of being a majority party this year.

This bizarre amnesty program will end the GOP's chances for decades if it passes. The uneducated working-class Hispanics, many with poor dependents, will always be more susceptible to the Dims promising them goodies. They already are voting 80% Dim in recent elections. Bringing in even more of them will absolutely doom the GOP.

[Kimberly GG]

"Many Hispanics apparently were radicalized by the mass demonstrations, and no longer are open to any appeal for a balanced immigration plan. "

Never were. Pay attention D.C. Those signs don't say "Willing to Earn Amnesty" or "Secure the Border Now".

La Revolucion Continua........

http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm

http://medcarta.us/chicanopark/images.aspx

[OKIEDOC]

Mort hidden agenda by the pros at the hidden agenda MSM, trying to cause and stir up dissent in the Republican party.

Let S2611 get approved in it's current form and 60 million new Mexican oops American voters will certainly guarantee that we will have a government that somewhat favors the imbecilic corruption they have to live with in Mexico City.

This is the worst piece of legislation since Reconstruction days.

Besides I don't think Bush will lose that many of the 40% that voted for him in 2004.

Most of the Hispanics I talk with say they are angry at Democrats for wanting to give away for nothing what they had to work many years to get.

[NavyCanDo]

I'm reading allot of doubt that these numbers are true on the reply post. I believe it and I believe that Bush is between a rock and a hard place and that the GOP could be in some big trouble in 2008 and beyond.

In former White House adviser David Frum's book written in 2003, long before the border was front page news he writes this:

"Mexican Americans were emerging as the single most powerful swing voting bloc in U.S. elections, but one that was increasingly tilting against Bush's Republican Party. If the Mexican Americans were lured to the Democratic column by the promise of more lavish social spending and racial preferences for their children in college and on the job, the Republicans would be locked out of the White House forever. If, on the otherhand, Bush somehow found a way to reverse the Mexican American voting trend, he would reelect himself and bequeath a strongly competitive party to his successor."

Now this was written before the debate changed to just how closed to we want to close the border. Now I agree neither party seems to want to completely close the border as we in the base would wish, but you can clearly pick out the Party that is trolling for the Mexican American vote the strongest, the Dems. And they don't have a base that is upset by their fishing for Mexican American votes like we do.

Remember Bush won Florida by a mere 500 votes. Florida, a State with a large and fast growing Hispanic population.

I can see the dilemma that Bush faces. Best I can do is pray for him, pray for our Party, but most important pray for our country. God help us if North America becomes the Western Hemisphere's version of the European Union, but I can see it coming.

[small voice in the wilderness]

...but...

[Fruitbat]

Many Hispanics apparently were radicalized by the mass demonstrations, and no longer are open to any appeal for a balanced immigration plan.

Developing...

[Fruitbat]

Hispanics were 7% of national vote in 04, and will likely be 9% in 08. This group split 4 to 3 of the 7% in 04. If they split 7 to 2 or 6 to 3 of the 9% in 08, the GOP could be toast in the Presidential race.

Just wait until all the illegals get to vote! It'll shoot up 10-15%. They'll dictate, along with more than enough libs, how we're going to live and I don't think there's any need to say "hold onto your wallets."

This is going to be a great election ('08) for a 3PC. Absolutely fantastic. People are so sick and tired of incumbent politicians and liars filling the halls of our political insitutions.

It's time to get rid of all these self-servants and start getting some truly public-servants in.

[hispanarepublicana]

Many Hispanics apparently were radicalized by the mass demonstrations, and no longer are open to any appeal for a balanced immigration plan.

[MNJohnnie]

Except of course the claims about supposed "polling data" is a complete fraud. Only 16 out of 100 Senators have an approval rating under 50%. Kyl is not one of them. Seems pretty stupid of the Screamers to pick on Kyl who is on THEIR on this issue.

Seems the Whiners believe if they can just manufacture some convincing factoid they will panic the Senate into buying their propaganda. Funny how the Antis and the Eviromentalists are using the exact same propaganda tactics. Just make up what ever claim you can dream up, scream it over and over and over and MAYBE it will magically be believed by the peons who are "too stupid" to understand the "intellectual brilliance" of the screamers.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

So claims the Washington Post. The GOP is on the verge of a major electoral disaster.

Anyone who believes the WaPo's polling deserves to be ridiculed, mocked, and abused.