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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If the government REALLY wanted any of these attempts to secure the border to be effective- they would have been.


2 posted on 05/21/2006 8:05:00 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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In addistion to the fence around CA, fencing the insantity in NYC would be a good idea.


3 posted on 05/21/2006 8:08:28 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: SE Mom

You're right. Unfortunately, those in power pay more attention to special interest groups, including those seeking cheap labor, than what's in the best interest of the country.


5 posted on 05/21/2006 8:09:54 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: SE Mom
If the government REALLY wanted any of these attempts to secure the border to be effective- they would have been.

If the government REALLY wanted to stop illegal immigration they would simply stop the paying of illegal immigrants to come here.
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8 posted on 05/21/2006 8:45:54 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: SE Mom

"If the government REALLY wanted any of these attempts to secure the border to be effective they would have been."


If only we could convince more people of this and hold the Republican's feet to the fire, maybe we can persuade Republicans by November to fix this. Long-shot.


15 posted on 05/21/2006 9:46:23 AM PDT by TechnicalEcstacy (Ann Coulter - want to touch the heiny - aaoowwwooo!)
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To: SE Mom
The REAL problem with border enforcement has always been the issue of deadly force.

When/if the US gets serious about preventing illegals from crossing...deadly force will be an integral element.

Unless we build a wall.

A wall with a tower every 3 miles or so and a patrol road from end to end. Sensors along the entire length. There should be a van with two Border Patrol every 10 miles.

This arrangement could intercept the occaisional breach...and sensors could pick up any attempt at tunneling. However, the border patrol will need to be backed up by some other federal entity...response teams every 200 miles or so (I propose an even dozen) composed of 30-50 men armed with the latest non-lethal riot suppression equipment available. The would be used to prevent a mass breach of triple-layer fencing...with the last layer on the US side being an 8ft tall wall of razor wire. Each of the "riot response teams" would require a fully armed "SWAT" team to back them up incase the run into organized, armed resistance.

The final layer would be 4-5 armed helicopter assault teams to provide a level of deterence that would be unquestioned and unchallenged by the organized drug gangs.

Under such a scenario we should never have to shoot the average Jose who is thinking of crossing...99% would be deterred by the wall...the rest intercepted by the Border Patrol in trucks. When the leftist charlatans stir riots on the other side and major breaches are attempted (I have NO DOUBT this will occur) we can deploy the riot response teams who can lay a cloud of tear gas 10 miles square.

If the govt of Mexico allows a force big and bad enuff to gather which could challenge the RRTs the helo assault team would be called into action and should persue the assaulting force into Mexico if necessary. At this point the govt of Mexico should be notified that we will no longer allow them to host a hostile, invading army on our border. If it happens a second time, we should march a brigade of Abrams tanks to Mexico City and arrest the President.

17 posted on 05/21/2006 10:16:24 AM PDT by Mariner
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Yep, we were serious about the Korean border for 50 years and it worked well. We know how to do it. We just need a president like Ike again.


18 posted on 05/21/2006 10:19:29 AM PDT by SUSSA
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