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To: Michael81Dus
"Do you think that everybody has the duty to risk his life under oppression to prevent your dictator from doing something wrong?"

Wouldn't you be risking your life anyway if your dictator did something stupid and invited mass destruction to your country? By whose sword would you rather die and what would be the more noble death?

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"I don´t blame Germans for not standing up against Hitler."

Hitler was only the stand-in, the one who executed the majority will of the German people, though some Germans attempted to assassinate Hitler but failed. Would the Germans rally around another crazy person who attempted to do what Hitler tried to do? I doubt it. Civilizations evolve if they don't forget history. Were the Germans captivated by the rantings of an aggressive crazy man? Apparently so. They empowered him to continue because they didn't stop him. They didn't stop him because they wanted what he wanted. They made their choice to live as aggressors and paid the price.

But today the world is faced with a more deadly enemy of mankind. There is no way to fight against the rule of a dead person who leads from the grave.

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"Do you think that every Iranian who doesn´t stand up against Ahmadi-F-him is guilty?"

No, if they are actively working to de-throne the nut before the country explodes. If you are actively working to de-throne the nut when the country explodes, you die a nobel death and with honor. The same goes for the minority of Germans who were working against Hitler.

Things happen because of the majority will and mind-set. Bad things or good things.

My suggestion for those who don't want to share in someone else's instant karma is to not be present when it comes down.

279 posted on 05/21/2006 8:28:17 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

So you say it is a duty to risk your life under oppression. Dear Eastbound, have you ever lived in a dictatorship? Even as a foreign citizen under diplomatic immunity in Iran you can imagine how it is like to live in fear.

From what do you conclude that Hitler enforced the will of the German majority? He never got a majority for his party in a free parliamentary vote. He was appointed Chancellor by the President and built a coalition. There was never a vote "Do you want war with Poland". In fact, the mood was anxious and full of fear when WW2 started - and I take that from first-hand-reports. The people were still fed up with war 14 years after WW1. But that´s not what you get from the movies - the propaganda was excellent in persuading the foreign that Hitler was popular. He wasn´t. There were more than 40 known attempts to kill him - starting in the 20´s. Most Germans didn´t make "his choice" to live "as aggressors". The Nazis did so, sure. But the majority of Germans didn´t want the mass murder of Jews. Read reports of that time, from Jews and non-Jewish Germans. You will find out that many Jews say that their neighbours had too much fear to help them. It´s not that they didn´t want to. It´s that fear was stronger. I have understanding for people under fear. It´s not cowardly not to help them, but it´s heroic to do so. I have no understanding for cowards who deport or kill unarmed, hungry and depressed humans.


301 posted on 05/21/2006 12:10:43 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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