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1 posted on 05/20/2006 8:33:41 PM PDT by tbird5
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If we did it now, it would be considered to. But during WWII that is the way both sides fought.
2 posted on 05/20/2006 8:34:40 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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Nope !!

In war, you got to beat the enemy, otherwise, you'll lose.
3 posted on 05/20/2006 8:36:09 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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Hmmmm, what two countries indicrimatly bombed Polish and Chinese cities? Tough for them when we paid them back.


4 posted on 05/20/2006 8:36:48 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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A key question to ask: were the civilians aiding ther war machine by working in factories and other industries in support of the war effort? If so, they are part of the wartime logistics infrastructure.


5 posted on 05/20/2006 8:37:49 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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What's past is past. Get over it. Learn from history and don't do it again. Now that wasn't too hard, was it?


6 posted on 05/20/2006 8:37:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Was the American Bombing Campaign in World War II a War Crime?

Not unless a Republican was President.

7 posted on 05/20/2006 8:38:42 PM PDT by sourcery (Political & economic freedom: More important than gays burning flags at their weddings)
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The Germans bombed British civilians long before German cities were bombed. Besides, German manufacturing took place in urban areas. The apologists will trot out the bombing of Dresden, but to them I say....So what? The winners get to write the history.


8 posted on 05/20/2006 8:39:31 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Neither a Bushbot nor a Bushbasher.)
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The only reason we don't do it now, is because we don't have to. The US was definitely offering Mutually Assured Destruction to the Soviets. We still do, it's just that both sides decided to take their fingers off the trigger for a spell.


9 posted on 05/20/2006 8:40:02 PM PDT by glorgau
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When's the apology due?


10 posted on 05/20/2006 8:40:06 PM PDT by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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"World War II both the Britain’s Bomber Command and the United States Army Air Force deliberately targeted civilians".

When you are dealing with murdering governments that are targeting your civilians, you target their civilians.

Give the other side a dose of their own medicine.


11 posted on 05/20/2006 8:41:00 PM PDT by Supernatural (Its not dark yet, but its getting there.)
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Can there really be civilians in all out war?

It is the "civilians" that manufacture the goods that empower the war machine to continue on.


12 posted on 05/20/2006 8:41:39 PM PDT by DB (©)
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Atilla the Hun, the Hebrews, the Saracens, etc., etc., etc., up close and personal, put the men to the sword, the old women and older children, enslave the ones too young to recall, and move on.

Slay, loot, pillage, and burn.

Next?

How far back y'all wanna go?

13 posted on 05/20/2006 8:44:31 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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He makes the case that at least by our current standards we were terrorists

Why do I think there's a good chance that, on 9/11, he didn't have any loved ones in the World Trade Center or in the Pentagon or in any of the planes that were used as missiles while carrying our loved ones?

14 posted on 05/20/2006 8:45:03 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Why did the three wise men have ashes in their beards? Because they had just come from afar.)
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To even ask the question indicates that a Liberal Socialist is behind it. It is nothing more than a way to rewrite history to make the white European male evil. WE did not attack civilians of countries we were not a war with, unlike the 911 terrorist. We did not go out of our way to attack civilians, unlike the Palestinian Terrorist. In fact we tried to avoid churches, schools, and hospitals. Even the targets for the nuclear bombs were industrial targets. We had a choice to take out some of Japans religious cities but chose not to for humanitarian reasons.
This question is nothing more that MORAL RELATIVISM to make it seem that the Arab Terrorist are just nothing more that freedom fighters. The question is seditious and propaganda.


16 posted on 05/20/2006 8:46:04 PM PDT by Exton1
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It's called, "Total War". Grant and Sherman reinvented it in the US Civil War, but it has been with us since the dawn of civilization. I have been in a war, and there really is no way to fight, "by the rules." Because, if you do, and the other country doesn't, you may lose.


18 posted on 05/20/2006 8:47:12 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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Was Sherman's "March to the Sea" a war crime? It specifically targetted civilian infrastructure.


23 posted on 05/20/2006 8:51:25 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Like my buddy Rush says, in war the aggressor sets the rules. Japan and Germany set the rules, and Team America beat them.


24 posted on 05/20/2006 8:51:40 PM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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There are a lot of historians lately who have been going off on this kind of rant.

I had to read a book this last semester by an idiot named Bruce Cumings. The whole thing was a rant about how evil the United States is, especially for the "war crimes" and "genocide" we perpetrated during World War II, Korea, and Vietnam. He believes that during World War II, the United States was on the same level as Nazi Germany.

He also spends almost the entire preface on a mindless Bush bash. “Bush stole the election.” “He was selected not elected.” “Bush is an idiot.” “He lost the popular vote so he really didn’t win.” (One would think Cumings, who is probably an intelligent person, would remember that the so called “popular vote” doesn’t mean anything in U.S. Presidential elections.) Even the tragic event involving the U.S.S. Greenville is used to lay blame at the feet of President Bush. Then he implies that the President is totally over blowing the threat of Islamic terrorists and using Sept. 11th as an excuse to continue a Cold War mentality. All of this of course means that the President is also responsible for the continuing problems with North Korea. According to Cumings, has the U.S. just continued the policies of Bill Clinton, everything would have been just fine on the Korean Peninsula.

25 posted on 05/20/2006 8:52:07 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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If we get into a war where we and an enemy are at each other's necks like the allies and axis were in WWII, you better believe there is going to be bombing of civilians.

Was the asshole who wrote this even alive for WWII?


28 posted on 05/20/2006 8:53:13 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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Very important part:
"Grayling acknowledges that American bombing attacks on German fuel stocks, transportation and aircraft factories actually had some significant effect on the outcome of the war, so he gives the U.S. Army Air Force a partial pass. The USAAF usually attempted precision bombing of industrial targets by day; the Royal Air Force’s Bomber Command usually attempted area bombing by night, and aimed at whole cities. Grayling does not give the Bomber Command that partial pass."

29 posted on 05/20/2006 8:53:44 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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