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To: Allegra
Yes, I remember. I was in the military before, during and after Vietnam. Initially, there was indifference, or maybe tacit support. But, under LBJ, it became clear the Vietnam War was unnecessary and prosecuted badly. Tet68 really was the dividing line between indifference and protest.

The WOT is supposed to be as valid as WWII but it has not been sold to the country that way. I think what you have experienced back in the world and in England is due to that poor salesmanship.
13 posted on 05/20/2006 1:36:40 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
I think what you have experienced back in the world and in England is due to that poor salesmanship.

Last year when I was home for a bit, I was at a gathering. A friend of a friend asked me where I work and I said "Iraq."

He looked perplexed and said "Oh. So what's going on there that Americans like yourself would be working there?"

Then I was the one to look perplexed.

14 posted on 05/20/2006 1:41:21 AM PDT by Allegra (Tards Rule!)
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To: leadpenny

"The WOT is supposed to be as valid as WWII but it has not been sold to the country that way. I think what you have experienced back in the world and in England is due to that poor salesmanship."

I'm kind of at a loss as to what the author of the article is arguing. I kind of like the idea that we are capable of waging war without demanding significant sacrifice from the citizenry. Would it really be a good thing if 20 odd under-educated cult following savages with box cutters were able to bring Western Civilisation into a state of total war (re conscription, diversion of usual economic activity to military activity, suspenision of normal civil domestic legal code for military legal code, rationing etc.). If they achieved any of that then frankly they won. Hey, the news is we have the military might to fight them in our place of choosing (Iraq and Afgahnistan - for now), in our time of choosing - and all without a any citizen being inconvienced one iota. To me that's kind of a big finger to the rag heads.


18 posted on 05/20/2006 2:03:08 AM PDT by Brit_Guy
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To: leadpenny
I am sorry for the way this country treated those of you who fought in Vietnam. I know you had a tough time of it. This war is not Vietnam. Vietnam did not start with 3000 Americans being murdered by the enemy. Please stop making fraudulent analogies to Vietnam out of this war. It in no way, shape, form or operational method is it in any way similar to Vietnam. That is a nonsensical claim.
60 posted on 05/20/2006 6:15:23 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Conservative, The simple fact about DC is this . "There is more work to do"...)
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To: leadpenny
Tet68 really was the dividing line between indifference and protest.

Tet was a huge defeat for the commies in Asia. Their allies the commies in America however used their media propaganda outlets to convince the sheeple that the opposite was true.

American commies now are trying the same thing in regards to the WOT.
Sadly the sheeple are once again falling for the lies.

78 posted on 05/20/2006 6:48:08 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: leadpenny
Good morning.
"The WOT is supposed to be as valid as WWII but it has not been sold to the country that way."

I believe our war fighters already understand what the WOT is all about, as do most civilians who support it.

Most politicians and almost all liberals can't see beyond their own reelection and/or their agenda so it's not possible to make them understand that it's all about survival.

Michael Frazier
122 posted on 05/20/2006 10:17:33 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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