I agree that Rokke is well versed regarding the CFR and his posts are well written. And although I disagree with his take on this subject, I never felt the need to post to him until he wrote...
"Who is advocating integrating with corrupt socialist and communist governments? What is your evidence that this country has been or wants to be?"
Once I read that, the word AGENDA splashed accross my computer screen. So our President, Senators, US Corporations and their lobbyists are not complicit with Mexico in selling out the US Taxpayer. Where has Rokke or you been the last 6 months?
BTW, I never called Rokke naive or stupid. If I did, please show me.
when you typed this did you have a straight face?
Fair enough. I will take you at face value then. When I read the phrases above in context, I thought you were being ironic in an attempt to discredit his response. I apologize if you were being sincere and I misunderstood.
On the substance of this debate...I think the more important question is, where have these conspiracy theories been the last sixty years? The truth is EXACTLY where they are today. As footnotes in the margins.
I do not believe that President Bush or the star players on his team are particularly influenced by organizations such as the CFR. He is influenced by people who are members, as are all Presidents, but I believe the evidence shows that the President is much more likely to be influenced by experience with people like his housekeeper or an Iraqi who lost part of his family under Saddam, or someone who lost his wife in the WTC than he is the elites.
You may still not like the results, but to fit his behavior into some secret one world government plot is actually a complete misunderstanding of the man and his character—and imo the characters of many of the people who are members of the CFR.
Again I apologize for my mischaracterization.