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To: Smogger

"A complete lack of perspective."

A statement of objective political reality. Don't get angry at the meteorologist for telling you that there's a hurricane coming because you don't want to have to ride out a hurricane.

"Al Qaeda is licking it chops at the prospects of a Democrat controlled government, with it's reliance on platitudes and UN police actions."

When the Democrats win in November, which they will unless BorderBots are appeased, there will still be a Republican controlling the US government. Democrats in Congress will not be able to override his veto, and there will still be a Republican Secretary of Defense. If this were the 2008 election, it would be a different story. But it's not.

"They will wait patiently until a Democrat is at the helm, and they will launch the most devestating series of strikes the world has ever seen."

Perhaps, but there will still be a Republican at the helm in 2007. Regardless of who wins Congress, it will be by a close margin, and President Bush isn't going anywhere.
2008 is the moment that a Democrat could win the election, if the Republicans don't learn anything from the defeat of 2006. Republicans WILL learn something from the defeat of 2006. I would prefer that they learn it BEFORE the defeat, so that we don't have to HAVE the defeat, but if they won't learn it before November, they will certainly learn it then. Then there are two years to change course and ensure that a Democrat doesn't get back the helm of state.

"They can do this largely because their state sponsors will know that they will not be retailiated against with a Democrat in office."

Depends on who the Democrat is. Joe Lieberman would retaliate. But I am being argumentative. Among the likely field of electable Democrats, you're probably right.

"The War on Terror should be the overriding issue for patriots."

BorderBots would say that securing the Mexican Border is fundamental to the War on Terror, because that's where all the terrorists who are plotting their next attack in America even now are sneaking in. And they're right about that too.

I would say to you that since the War on Terror is so imperative, it is imperative not to lose Congress. Since it is imperative not to lose Congress, President Bush and the Senate Republicans have simply got to give in to the BorderBot demand of a physical fence on the border. It's the easiest thing to give them, to start doing, and to let them have a visible victory that's more than symbolic. An actual wall will stop the flow and give the Border Conservatives what they crave, long term.

Anyway, if we can't seem to budge on the fence now, we're going to be forced to give it next year by loss in November.
So why be stubborn about it now?

We're going to have to do it anyway, so let's give them their victory on the fence and then not have to worry about losing Congress and the War on Terror.



1,456 posted on 05/17/2006 12:58:25 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Vicomte13
"President Bush and the Senate Republicans have simply got to give in to the _______________ demand of..."

The demand is always the same, fill in the blank with the crusade of choice.

1,467 posted on 05/17/2006 1:00:55 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Vicomte13
There are so many falsehoods and misunderstandings in that post it is hard to know where to begin.

The biggest error is to believe turning over the House will make the GOP more conservative. Only a fool can believe that. In FACT, it will make the GOP more liberal if that is the way the votes went.

The biggest falsehood and it IS a WHOPPER is that al Queda is coming over the souther border. Anyone who has thought about this seriously knows that the northern border is FAR more likely to be the place terrorist cross for several reasons.

How idiotic does one have to be to attack the party which is standing with conservatives on the Illegals issue? The House bill is to conservatives liking and 2/3 of the GOP Senators voted against the bill conservatives hate. So you are claiming that we should punish the GOP? There is no other name for this than INSANITY.

BTW it is unfortunate that you don't have a chance to vote for the Nazis or Hamas so you could REALLY teach the GOP a lesson. No one can figure exactly what that "lesson" is unless it is "many of us are dumb as rocks".
1,549 posted on 05/17/2006 1:22:35 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Vicomte13
Anyway, if we can't seem to budge on the fence now, we're going to be forced to give it next year by loss in November.

They are going to get a big fence. Hell! I want a fence to. I think everyone does, but I doubt that will placate the most hardliners who seemed to have whipped themselves into a frenzy.

1,781 posted on 05/17/2006 2:42:17 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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