Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"money..."
Nail:head.
I've wondered often about why Bush would do this, going against what polls say 80% of the electorate wants. I've wndered even MORE about the far more political Senate. Why on earth would they be pushing this, if nobody is calling for it and it's going to tick off a majority of the country?
I think you've got the answer. Perdue. All the mega-construction companies. Tyson is primrily Dem, but i bet they give money to both parties. Follow the money. I don't think it's a conspiracy - just human nature in a political game.
Twenty percent of Nashville is Illegals? Sorry don't buy it.
Heck, they won't even join the border patrol and try to effect their great changes from within.
Great letter.
"The willingness to throw the law away by those calling themselves conservative was breathtaking."
What's your solution on the Border?
The President's is to throw the law away when it comes to the 20 million lawbreaking illegals, most felons (tax evasion is a felony; so is using false work papers), in the US. He says they go "to the end of the line". Which is not where felons otherwise go.
So, what's your solution on the border that respects the existing law to the hilt?
Or do you support the President's plan to continue selectively enforcing the law and thereby throwing it away?
What's your plan?
But it's not a strawman in the context of ENFORCING it.
How about writing a letter yourself telling the President who speaks for you...then get two more people to also write.
It's time the President heard from the people who really did elect him.
You have to go back to his first post to see what my issue is with the particular poster's line of debate.
Oh. That.
I was probably on the opposite side from you in that debate, but you're right. It got absolutely crazy. I had to take a step back and quit posting for a while. After time passed, I realized that what happened on FR (and around the country) was perfectly understandable. BOTH SIDES couldn't help but bring their own baggage to the debate. Many of us on the "Save Terri" side either were disabled ourselves, or had a close loved one who was. It was impossible not to see our own situations juxtoposed in the Schaivo slippery slope. On the other side were a lot of people who previously had to make the heart-wrenching decision to "pull the plug" in a hopeless situation. What they saw were a bunch of yelling, judgmental people sticking their noses in an intensely private situaion and wagging their fingers at THEM. And there we were thrown together with our wounds wide open. It was just entirely too personal for anybody to discuss it rationally.
Except for a few, I don't think this debate even comes close. It's not REALLY personal, just the same old true-believers vs pragmatists debate.
After Schaivo, I was literally exhausted, and felt dirty. It cut that deep. I know many felt the same. Thank God we've got a new "hot-button" issue. I don't ever want to go through that again.
Gawd, that is asinine. First of all, it is an enumerated right to petition the government. Second of all, thank god most of us have private sector jobs which allows the goverment to even exist by being able to tax us and get revenues. And third, one does not need to be a politician to learn from historical failures - quite the contrary, politicians seem to be unable to learn from history. And Reagan's failed amnesty and the serious problems caused in Europe by guest worker programs shows that my side on this debate is studying history.
And the BorderBots could, but are too busy arguing the expedience of broadsiding the waves because they think it'll save time and would rather mutiny to control the tiller on principle at the expense of capsizing the boat.
No, you're not depressing me further. You're just not depressing me any less.
A few more posts, and this is going to go down as a bench clearing brawl. Ha!
Excellent analysis. A more detailed and thorough exposition on the observation that open-borders are supported by an unholy alliance of Democrats and businesses.
This is, of course, how every civilization eventually falls. Not from external factors like overtly hostile enemies; no, it always comes from within through the same collusion of those that benefit.
Imagine Egypt, Greece & Rome all those millenia ago. Factions developed from those who would harness the political power of immigrants streaming in from all parts of the known world. These in turn would combine with those that directly profited from the immigrants desperate circumstances.
We have the power of knowledge to see how this has played out before. It's weird to watch the slow motion wreckage of a 220 y.o. experiment knowing how it all shakes out in the end.
Peddle it to someone else dirtboy.
OK, that's a rough estimate. But you can't use the 2000 census as a baseline - the growth in Nashville since then has rivaled Houston's growth in the late 70's / early 80's. I'd say Nashville's population is pretty close to 750,000 and will probably be up to a million by 2010. And that doesn't include the "donut" counties, which are growing even faster.
Not that I'm happy about it. Too many Yankees and Californians (along with all the illegals) for my liking. Nissan just moved their North American HQ here, so we'll be getting a few thousand MORE Californians! But the good thing about this is that our economy is on fire here. There are FOUR major high-rise condo construction sites within a mile of where I work. It's just nuts.
But I'll concede that I don't KNOW that there a 100,000 illegals in Nashville. Driving in south Nashville sure makes it look that way, though.
I figured your rebuttal would be that feeble.
Peddle your BS elsewhere.
People screaming like Cindy Seehans are though. Even you must admit there are more than a few.
Maybe they are screaming because Bush is failing to listen as he takes the GOP over a cliff?
Good idea. I already send him notes of support when I feel he's taking unecessary heat, including the first time immigration was blamed on him, but haven't sent one recently.
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