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I do find it a bit sad that the immigration issue has become such an idee fixe in the eyes of some FReepers that they would not offer sanctuary to a woman run out of Europe by the death threats of Islamists and the cowardice of the Dutch. Time, I suggest, for a few deep breaths and a little perspective. Just IMHO.

And a good opinion. However, the kneejerking is cutting both ways now. I didnt know who she was and at a time where illegal immigration fever is high, the post highlighted what we are dealing with. Now that I know who she is, I have tempered my stance. But what I object to is being called ignorant and a troll. What was posted, provided no insight. But the attacks on me and the "ignorant" posters was out of line. I have been around here for a long time, and have never seen FR like this. Last nights speech thread was quite contentious. Im hoping things will settle down, but I doubt it. Calling me ignorant, which I was in the true sense of the word, did nothing but start the flame war again. And you'll note, the one who said it has not responded since, but Im the troll. FR used to be a cool place..

FR used to be a cool place

And it still is! But once you decide to stop lurking and start posting, you better have a thick skin - even if you post something you think is totally innocuous and that no reasonable conservative could disagree with.

Expect to be misunderstood and abused. Then if you aren't, you can be pleasantly surprised! :-)

This is true of all internet forums I've ever known - going back to my first days on Usenet back in 1982 - especially in the politically oriented forums. (Anybody else out there remember misc.politics.* and talk.politics.misc and talk.politics.mideast and all the rest ???)

Now that I know who she is, I have tempered my stance.

Intelligent people do that. You are no troll. ;-)

And a good opinion. However, the kneejerking is cutting both ways now. I didnt know who she was and at a time where illegal immigration fever is high, the post highlighted what we are dealing with. Now that I know who she is, I have tempered my stance. But what I object to is being called ignorant and a troll. What was posted, provided no insight. But the attacks on me and the "ignorant" posters was out of line.

I'm glad to see that you've seen the significance of this woman. I know it is easy to come to the conclusion that she was not worthy to come to the US based just one the information from the article (written by the left wing media). But her true story is much deeper, and we as Americans should be honored that she chose the US out of the many countries that she could have fled from her religious/PC persecution. The immigration debate has spun up many FReepers, but we all still need to remember that "The New World" will always be a place where one can flee from religious persecution.

"But the attacks on me and the "ignorant" posters was out of line."

Actually it was not out of line.

Ignorant simply means unknowing. It doesn't mean stupid.

You were ignorant with the comment you made. Having someone call you on it is the cost of posting a comment on a subject you clearly didn't know anything about.

It happens to all of us...