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It's Time For Bush to Listen to His Base
Human Events ^ | 5/16/2006 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 05/16/2006 9:24:55 AM PDT by Paul Ross

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To: Paul Ross

Corruption is the fruit of their Bolshevik revolution, just as it is everywhere else the commies ran for a while...


81 posted on 05/16/2006 7:28:12 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: WriteOn
He's a poor conservative. Medicare Drug bill? No Child Left Behind? He spends like a drunken sailor. He hasn't met a spending bill he didn't like.

Sorry bud, facts and reality matter - The reality is federal spending today as a % of the economy is lower then the past 30 year average! - Furthermore non-security related discretionary spending has been cut for 5 years straight! (that doesn't mean the Gov't doesn't spend too much on all levels...federal, State and local...but the reality is, it isn't what you are suggesting in relation to GWB).

No Child Left Behind was nothing more then the reality of the demographics of this Country and what the public was demanding (accountability of the public education system).

Medicare Drug Bill? I don't particularly like it (however GWB is pushing for overhauls in private medical accounts which will pay off in the long run) - But if the criteria is 100% approval of all policy decisions while in office... in order to be a true Conservative...then we have had NONE in our history.

82 posted on 05/16/2006 7:45:37 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: LadyNavyVet

I agree, here's all i need to know. Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin agree with the President. Nuf said


83 posted on 05/16/2006 7:58:17 PM PDT by genxer
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To: Paul Ross

DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:
Three point plan to genuinely please your GOP base:

1) Enforce employer sanctions beginning this week. Really enforce them. Be serious, and effective. We know you can be.

2) Secure the border. That's going to take at least ten times as many guards as you've mentioned. PLEASE HIRE THEM. If we can rebuild a demolished violent country on the other side of the planet after 30 years of a terrorist ruler, we can certainly hire 50,000 more border guards, to preserve safety and freedom right here in the U. S. of A.

3) Then (and only then) discuss guest workers.

Any other order, will not work.

Other than that, keep up the good job.

But if you get this one wrong - none of the rest will matter, because Dems are going to make it impossible. We can all see that. Only you can stop it.

Please fix this. For your supporters. For our country.

God bless America.


84 posted on 05/16/2006 8:00:58 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Bush sending 6,000 Vigilantes to the border: A good start.)
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To: DevSix
Furthermore non-security related discretionary spending has been cut for 5 years straight!

Ouch, I sprained my eyeballs just reading that. What tiny percentage of the budget are you talking about?

85 posted on 05/16/2006 8:33:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Ouch, I sprained my eyeballs just reading that. What tiny percentage of the budget are you talking about?

Shrug it off all you want...but the reality is most entitlement spending requirements were placed on this WH long before they came into office (and the process for reversing those costs takes decades...not years). Which GWB is trying to do for example with private accounts for Soc Sec (though he needs more conservatives elected in the Senate) and with private medical accounts -

Secondly, it is the one area this President can cut without jumping through years of hoops...and he has done just that...cut spending in this area.

Lastly, on the whole federal spending today is lower then the past 30 year average. You don't have to like it, but facts matter and people trying to suggest GWB is spending like no other are simply not being accurate in relation to the growth of this country on the whole.

86 posted on 05/16/2006 8:39:31 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
Lastly, on the whole federal spending today is lower then the past 30 year average.

How is it compared to the Clinton years? You don't sell used cars for your day job do you?

87 posted on 05/16/2006 8:44:28 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: DevSix

Just keep posting facts, even though there are those here who refuse to accept reality.


88 posted on 05/16/2006 8:46:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Paul Ross

Whoops...Michael Reagan....another darned troll out to bash Bush.

Who will be left standing sides Kristol and Barnes?


89 posted on 05/16/2006 8:47:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (Are you a Coyote Republican or Un Hombre Verdad? Contestame FROBL?)
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To: Fintan

I feel abandoned a bit here too i might add.

I know everyone is really tore up over that..lol


90 posted on 05/16/2006 8:47:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (Are you a Coyote Republican or Un Hombre Verdad? Contestame FROBL?)
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To: Paul Ross

He's not running again and seems to be thinking of a legacy. Why that includes capitulating to Dems. and making nicey-nice I don't know.
I do know that he should indeed listen to his base.


91 posted on 05/16/2006 8:52:32 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("Consensus is the absence of leadership" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: JerseyDvl
He's not running again and seems to be thinking of a legacy.

Any President who doesn't use the veto won't be remembered as great. Any President who defends himself on any issue by first mentioning how much of our money he has spent on the issue won't be remembered as great. Any President whose followers claim he can't push the big ideas through Congress because he is a helpless kitten (even though his party has held both chambers most of the time) won't be remembered as great or even good.

92 posted on 05/16/2006 10:15:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: DevSix
Leaders move polls...

Well, we're going to find out.

I hope you're right, and the Republicans don't crater in November, but I doubt that even Reagan himself could have sold this plan in the present climate. At this point, it's about politics, not policy. And if you don't think a critical fraction of Republicans are perfectly capable of staying home on election day in a snit, well, you haven't walked enough Republican precincts yet.

93 posted on 05/16/2006 10:40:26 PM PDT by absalom01 (NRA,CRPA)
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To: Paul Ross

Marking.


94 posted on 05/16/2006 10:52:23 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: DevSix
The I think your leap that a significant portion (what is that by the way, 10, 20, 50% ?) of worker visa's are overstayed is fallacious. Source for the 250000 number is where? Just would like to verify it. Now the assumption of how many of 250000 overstayed and never renewed, how many returned after their work period, how many actually renewed and are therefore legal are all subject to opinion without detail and I just don't buy your assumptions and they certainly can't be claimed as fact. Factor in large numbers of illegals crossing the border daily and increasing daily since Bush has insisted on the amnesty debate (1 million per year by some estimates I consider conservative) and I conclude with some justification that the 12 million number is very conservative and indeed is not composed of a "significant" number of overstays. Even if there are overstays, they have violated their agreement and are now a burden on our society, legal system and our economy and the argument for them becoming citizens of our country after stealing social services, dropping anchor babies, and living illegally here before returning to their country of origin and applying for citizenship in the legally proscribed way seems distorted to the point of painful logic. Rewarding them for past illegal behavior sends what lesson? We are compassionate suckers?.
95 posted on 05/17/2006 4:40:35 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: DevSix
No Child Left Behind was nothing more then the reality of the demographics of this Country and what the public was demanding (accountability of the public education system).

There is no constitutional basis for any federal intrusion into the area of education. That clearly was a matter intended to be left to the several states. The concept that the Federal Gov. would ever have the power to confiscate taxes from our livelihoods and personal labors and blackmail our states with that money was not contemplated by the founders and if it had been would have been expressly rejected. Having some experience with this Kennedy education bill, my opinion is not only does it violate the constitution regarding limitations on federal powers, it is a crock that has severely burdened the costs of the educations systems of the states and is in fact not accomplishing squat in terms of substantial increases in scholastic abilities of the vast majority of our children. Big debates here but if Bush's legacy is going to be measured by this "accomplishment" the verdict is not yet in and clearly no claim of victory is close to being justified.

But if the criteria is 100% approval of all policy decisions while in office... in order to be a true Conservative...then we have had NONE in our history.

Not the right criteria. Even a broken clock is right twice a day (broken sundial may never be right so I guess he does not belong in that camp but I had to think about it...just kidding but barely)..It is clear on illegal immigration, Bush has steadfastly refused to enforce the law much less try to reverse the ever increasing flow of Mexicans illegally infiltrating our country. He has been on the amnesty kick the whole time the border has been being overrun.The real question is why, I have my own suspicions but we should really examine why he has not been as effective as Clintoon (ugh) "was-was" at this. Maybe we should follow the money?

96 posted on 05/17/2006 5:03:56 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: absalom01
I would submit that Conservative (not particularly Republicans since clearly those terms are not synonymous) could use this issue to our advantage in November. Some polls are now indicating a third party would tie the Democrats and beat the Republicans in '08 if they ran on this issue. I don't think it will work out that way but it does indicate we could significantly influence the '06 elections if we get into the Demo/Rep primaries with candidates running on this issue alone. I think the RINOs are exposed and Blue-dog Democrats like Zell Miller could raise havoc in the primaries...but we should get cracking.
97 posted on 05/17/2006 5:11:09 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: DevSix
attacks on this fine President. riding his old man's coattails to his position
98 posted on 05/17/2006 5:22:52 AM PDT by dingoMcgill
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To: Les_Miserables
It is clear on illegal immigration, Bush has steadfastly refused to enforce the law much less try to reverse the ever increasing flow of Mexicans illegally infiltrating our country. He has been on the amnesty kick the whole time the border has been being overrun.The real question is why, I have my own suspicions but we should really examine why he has not been as effective as Clintoon (ugh) "was-was" at this. Maybe we should follow the money?

The problem is here you refuse to be either intellectually honest or to give any understanding that good people can come to differing conclusions on how best to solve this 40 year in the making problem - The question I have is why?...though I have my suspicious.

The notion that GWB has steadfastly refused to follow the law is silly - The reality is close to 6 million people have been turned back from our borders in the last 5 years alone (though tremendous efforts) - The notion that our borders are wide open, is completely false as well - The notion that all 12 million illegals have come across the border illegally is false, as a sizable portion of those here illegally now came under worker permits and then never went back (wrongly so....but securing the border has nothing to do with this equation of the problem).

Secondly you completely spin the notion that GWB is for amnesty. When he is not (why must you lie?). Amnesty is what R. Reagan gave in 1986...one minute millions of illegals were illegal...the next minute they were not....with absolutely no requirements.

That is not what GWB is proposing. He is speaking of background checks, mechanisms for assimilation requirements (English, etc)....The reality is we have a temporary workers program that needs to be reformed. We must who is in this country, be able to verify they are still here or not, and locate them if needed. GWB plan does exactly this (and it is sorely needed just as much as our border security is).

The reality is GWB is taking a serious and commonsense look at addressing the current problems with both legal and illegal immigration in this Country. Hopefully the House can do a little of its own tweaking and we have a full and comprehensive reform packaged passed.

99 posted on 05/17/2006 5:53:23 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Moonman62

I agree Mm62, it is sad that he seems intent on going out this way. GWB has been listening to his critics more than the people who elected him it seems.


100 posted on 05/17/2006 6:49:48 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("Consensus is the absence of leadership" - Margaret Thatcher)
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