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To: Don Joe
... don't know if you even realize what you said. You have in essence justified the overthrow of the USA by the Mexican invaders.

Good grief.


Good grief, indeed! At that point I just gave it all up as utterly hopeless. I am having trouble comprehending the Bible quoting compassion babble crowd these days.

There are many of us, who are men and women of deep and abiding faith and conviction, who do not believe that closing the border and maintaining the sovreignty of our nation are inimical with our faith.


3,253 posted on 05/17/2006 8:11:04 PM PDT by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid

Good grief, indeed! At that point I just gave it all up as utterly hopeless. I am having trouble comprehending the Bible quoting compassion babble crowd these days.

There are many of us, who are men and women of deep and abiding faith and conviction, who do not believe that closing the border and maintaining the sovreignty of our nation are inimical with our faith.


Yup. You can count me among that number.

And among the verses that spring to mind is one that points out that he who refuses to provide for his own house is worse than an infidel.

Taking provisions out of the mouths of our families, to hand over to criminal invaders... it's like hearing your front door kicked in just as you'r'e sitting down to dinner, and then inviting the thief to come and dine with you -- and then hand him the food from your children's plates, a bag in which to place the silverware, and then a nice handy ring to hold the keys to your house, car, and safety deposit box, as you gather up your family and head out into your new home -- the streets!

This has crossed the line from "charity" to "self-martyrdom". It's a phenomenon that's hardly restricted to the current context (although it's apparently -- and sadly -- a perfect fit). I am personally acquainted with a particular "do-gooder", who has literally made it his life's work to "help others", to the detriment of his own family (and, in the process, has honed the "poor, pitiful me" act to an art). He can be found at all sorts of "charitable" engagements, everything from Boy Scouts to "visiting the infirm in the hospital" (strangers, who have no idea why he's there). His own family, though, persistantly gets the cold shoulder from him, and he is always "too busy" (with "important" stuff) to bother with them when they need his assistance.

I feel like I am watching this same pathology play out on a national level -- and I resent any "personal" efforts to ram it down my throat (i.e., to put me on a guilt trip over my failure to bend over forwards for "these good people.")

PS: On the subject of the aforementioned "do-gooder" -- a few years ago, before the invasion became such a hot topic for most, I said something in passing to the guy. It had to do with the "slow-rider/boom-boom" cars and loud "ethnic music" wailing out the window of a nearby farmhouse. (This was while standing on a very rural property my wife and I were considering buying, to put a house on.)

I got an immediate tongue-lashing from the guy, scolding me for being cruel to "these good people" -- and, a lecture on what "good" people they were. By golly they're just wonderful, and the fact that they make an otherwise "Waldenpondesque" setting into "el barrio el natural" is something that I should just suck up and eat, because, well... because they're such wonderful folk (all 20 of 'em jammed into the farmhouse). And they're so hard-working too!

3,255 posted on 05/17/2006 8:40:05 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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