[Texas_Jarhead]

bfree said, ""And the vast majority of Mexican Americans in this country qualify the same way. Many of the families were here before the Mayflower even launched.""

I asked what bfree was smoking and bfree told me to read a history book. I then asked, "So you are arguing that the "vast majority" of "Mexican Americans" in this nation have had ancestry in this nation since before the launch of the Mayflower? Is that what you are asserting?"

Old_sage_says said, "Slight correction. The Mayflower landed in 1620. Jamestown, the 1st permanent English settlement, was in 1607. I invite you to come to "the birthplace of America", the Old Dominion, the great state of Virginia and celebrate with us, our 400th birthday in 2007."

To which bfree replied, "Are you THAT dimwitted enough not to realize that Texas, California and the whole southwest were not part of Mexico at the time?"

Now I ask bfree what was the Mexican population of all SW border states under Mexico compared to an equal number of states from the original 13 colonies in the year 1800? If your assertion were true then it stands to reason that their populations should have been comparable. I'll trust your sources and look forward to your answer.

[Arizona Carolyn]

The Indians were here and then the Spanish.... Mexico didn't even want anything to do with this area and was not at all sad to sell it to the USA -- for $15 million dollars-- and the people who were here at the time were thrilled to finally be under US sovernty.</p>

[skeeter]

I asked what bfree was smoking and bfree told me to read a history book.

He told me that also. Which is more than a little ironic, since it is his version of history that is right out of a California public fifth grade textbook.

[old_sage_says]

I'm glad you directed that question to the other person because I have no idea what the comparable populations were in 1800.

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