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To: daviddennis
One thing many of you should understand is that there are plenty of people like me around, who like illegals because they're hard workers and those we know and are in contact with are good people.

Because of folks like me, many of who are Republicans, he can't deport everyone without losing us from his base. And he can't do nothing or he'll lose you guys from his base.

Now there's an honest answer...I'll give you credit for that...So what you're saying is that if George deports your cheap, illegal labor, you'll dump the party and go with whoever will allow you to illegally hire illegals...

Now we know you don't want them to be legal because you'd have to start paying attention to rules and regulations...And pay more...

But thanks for being an honest FReeper...

1,215 posted on 05/15/2006 5:49:38 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Iscool; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; jess35

One of the reasons I support illegals is because of a bigoted contractor I knew who was highly dishonest (he would steal from his customers). He was the black sheep brother of an employer of mine, and the employer hoped that some of my honesty would rub off on him.

He said the illegals were all taking his jobs.

Of course when it came to actually hiring labor he would hire illegals.

"They're hard workers," he said.

I see a lot of hypocricy like his around, and I don't like it at all.

I think he lost jobs because people who hired him discovered his theft of stuff from him and really didn't like that. This, of course, has little to do with illegals.

I have benefitted from illegals by working for a company that I believe hired them. (I didn't dig enough to get proof, but I'm sure they did). This company, however, created jobs for plenty of good people, both on the factory side (the Spanish speakers, who were very hard working) and the administrative side (who were all American citizen types). I no longer work for that company, but I'm sure there are thousands of American manufacturing companies that have very similar profiles.

So people should understand that low-end illegals don't just steal jobs away from other manual laborers; they create administrative and technical jobs that are generally higher paying and more pleasant work.

None of the business ventures I've been involved in managing have hired illegals. I have experience with American workers, which unfortunatly has not been favorable.

I guess you can say that on the whole I have a positive impression of illegals and don't like the way they're beat up on here, with nobody to tell the other side of the story. That's why I've spent a lot of my time and effort to try and express a more balanced view of this topic.

My personal ideology is that people are people, and what matters is how good they are as workers and as human beings, not the color of their skin or their citizenship. I'll take an honest, hard-working illegal alien over a lazy or dishonest American any time.

I'm afraid this is not a popular viewpoint on FR.

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1,620 posted on 05/15/2006 6:25:53 PM PDT by daviddennis
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