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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Mercat

"This problem has existed for over 30 years."

In 1970, an Economics professor I had in college outlined three problems in future America.

1)Illegal immigrants
2)Runaway spending on SS and Medicare
3)HMOs


961 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:36 PM PDT by old_sage_says ("Man does not live by his words alone, despite the fact that he sometimes has to eat them" A S)
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To: All; Deb

I hate to think this, but unless I die before the age that typical Texas wimmin live to be (whatever that is), I think I may live to see the day when Mexicans are filing lawsuits so they can fly their flag above The Alamo again. Mark my words.

And the SAD thing is... Texas is becoming so diluted, most people here will probably allow it to happen. In the name of "political correctness," doncha know.


962 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:37 PM PDT by Nita Nupress (Where does Jack Bauer stand on illegal immigration? Anyone? :-)
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To: All

WE should change the "Anchor Baby" rule to apply only after a person comes of age at 21. They would apply for their citizenship on the day they become an adult and therefore would not automatically bring their extended family with them.


963 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:43 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: zook
Only the politically cantankerous will object.

That depends...you can't claim someone has "deep roots in our country" if they've only been here for five years.

964 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:47 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: Soul Seeker
he's going to hope the American people will buy it with a few Guards on the border doing nothing but what the Minutemen already do.

That's not what proposed at all, of course.

965 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:49 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: All

Peter King & Tom Tancredo on FOX NEWS NOW!!!


966 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:53 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Jimbaugh
>>>>That speach will cost 45 seats in the house Mr. BUSH. Impeachment will take place 3-6 months are that.

Ouch!

967 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:54 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Tribune7
"Dubya will go down as one of our great presidents"

"Dubya will go down as one of our great presidents"

Bears frequent repeating.

968 posted on 05/15/2006 5:34:57 PM PDT by zook
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To: Drammach

Would we be doing this through the courts/INS or just rounding them up and shipping them out?


969 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:00 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: MartiniKing

Bush hater?????Blow it out your ear!!!!!


970 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:03 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: kellynla
Rep. Tom Tancredo and Rep. Pete King follows the President's speech on Fox News Channel.

Rep. King says we should NOT consider letting people who are here illegally stay here. He's the Homeland Secrueity Committee Chairman. Totally against "legalization" and that it is a magnet to pull more people across the border. Rep. Tancredo on now. Praising troops on the border idea. Praising employment ID card. False dichotomy from the President where he says either legalize all of them or round up and deport all 12 million. There's something in between.

971 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:10 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: devane617
from the speech:
"English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a
grocery … from cleaning offices to running offices … from a life
of low-paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own.
When immigrants assimilate and advance in our society, they realize
their dreams ... they renew our spirit ... and they add to the unity of America."


So, once all the illegals have learned English and been made legitimate...
who will fill that pool of people that will do "Jobs That Americans
Won't Do"?

Hmmm...I guess that's when we'll be doing the next amnesty package.
Another 20 years from now.
972 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:16 PM PDT by VOA
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To: JennysCool
I'm still amazed at the folks on this board who think we could possibly deport millions of people here in 2006.

Nice strawman. No one is calling for massive roundups. Building a security fence to cut off the influx and then cutting off the demand by going after EMPLOYER has been the overwhelmingly advocated here.

973 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:19 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: proud American in Canada
Stop it on the northern border, too.

Finally. Thanks for putting it in perspective. We must treat all of our neighbors the same. If troops are going to be on one border, they MUST be on the North, South, AND our unprotected East and West coasts.

974 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:26 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: flaglady47

Are you foaming at the mouth?


975 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:31 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: devane617

I watched the Presidents speech this evening and found it to be totaly inadaquate to deter the criminal aliens that are coming into this country.6000 national guardsman are a bandaid on a cut artery.

He could have provided additional deterance by cutting of access to all social services in this country. He didn't do that.

He keeps pushing for this bogus jobs bill,so that criminal aliens can do jobs Americans won't do.

I could go on and on but its not worth it.The Presidents speech was a total disappointment.

The Republicans will lose the Next Election there is No doubt about it now.


976 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:34 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: devane617
..I voted for President Bush, twice

Tonight was a watershed event--I feel very uncertain...

977 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:36 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: pbrown
"I'm so disappointed I could cry"..

Legalization for Illegals is still amnesty, no matter how he colors it..

I'm not disappointed, I'm disgusted.

sw

978 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:40 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ("He who tries to please all, pleases none)
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To: Halls

I think there are some who will NEVER be pleased no matter WHAT ATTEMPTS are made...This problem has been around for far too long and atleast SOMETHING is trying to be done about it now...Will it be enough? I don't know, but I sure know one thing - the democrats sure as heck aren't going to fix it, so atleast we can support our reps and keep on sending suggestions and always offer to help volunteer with money or time with the Minutemen. They started the ball rolling and who knows what other balls will get out there as a result. We can't just sit in our barker lounges and cry and whine. Be active, do something construction, but, for heaven sake, don't just whine and criticize!


979 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:42 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Reagan Man
The RATS already have the Hispanic vote

Disagree with that one. I've talked to many Mex/Cuban/Rican legal immigrants,
and they hate illegals more than we do. They agree with us that illegals should be sent
back without any hesitation.

These people are in the Tampa/St. Pete area. We have many areas that are dedicated
to the migrant/transient workers that follow the growing seasons. What they are all
in agreement with are the felons that are deeply rooted in this culture. Thats what
needs to be addressed.

980 posted on 05/15/2006 5:35:47 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()......Lt. Dan Band Rocks ........()
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