[Jack Black]

My nonsense! What about this one of yours "The North Vietnamese didn't win." REALLY? That's why Saigon is Ho Chi Mihn City today? You can spin it any way you want but the North achieved total victory on their terms. No partition, no elections, commie flag on the US Embassy.

Sure, the South caved, the Dems aided and abetted, etc. All that just proves my point that you shouldn't fight wars by 1/2 way measures.

[muawiyah]

The NVA did not win against the United States. Further, they were ALLOWED to enter South Vietnam virtually unopposed due to the fact the Congress prevented US help.