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To: Wonder Warthog
I'm still waiting for one of you FROBLs to tell me WHY it's impossible/flawed. Thus far, not a one of you has done so.

You win, as long as outflow exceeds inflow by at least 1 per time unit, and time frame is irrelevant, it is possible to deport 11 million. Well, kinda, since most of them will have died of old age before it happens and you won't really have deported 11 million.

There is no indication that the "law of diminishing returns" applies. In many cases, doubling budget results in MORE than a doubling of output. It depends on how the budget is applied.

Okay, you lay it out then. Where will you apply double the budget to net a doubling of effect. For instance what is your forecast for the increase in court costs? How about enforcement personnel, capital equipment, detention facilities, legal representation, health and human services logistics?

The law of diminishing returns most definitely applies since any increase in program effectiveness will be met with an increase of resistance activities. In the real world anyway.

As an aside, what is FROBL? I'm not familiar with the term.

838 posted on 05/15/2006 12:03:23 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51
"You win, as long as outflow exceeds inflow by at least 1 per time unit, and time frame is irrelevant, it is possible to deport 11 million. Well, kinda, since most of them will have died of old age before it happens and you won't really have deported 11 million."

Well, I kinda calculate that at a deportation rate of 3 million per year, assuming that the borders are closed sufficiently well to drop the influx of illegals by 90%, that it'll take just about five years to deport the 11 million, so I seriously doubt that many of them will have "died of old age". But, as I said, if it take ten years, I'll be happy.

"Where will you apply double the budget to net a doubling of effect. For instance what is your forecast for the increase in court costs? How about enforcement personnel, capital equipment, detention facilities, legal representation, health and human services logistics?"

Can't read very well, can you. I've already said that I would double that part of the INS budget that applies to deportation, which automatically includes all of those things.

"The law of diminishing returns most definitely applies since any increase in program effectiveness will be met with an increase of resistance activities. In the real world anyway."

Read up on Deming, SQC, and similar topics. The "law of diminishing returns" says: In a production system, having fixed and variable inputs, keeping the fixed inputs constant, as more of a variable input is applied, each additional unit of input yields less and less additional output. So it only applies IF the "fixed inputs" are held constant. We're not talking about a production system here, nor will the fixed inputs be held constant. So, as I said, it depends on how the budget gets applied.

"As an aside, what is FROBL? I'm not familiar with the term."

FROBL - Free Republic Open Borders Lobbyist

862 posted on 05/15/2006 2:24:47 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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