Go back and re-read what I actually SAID---which was to double the enforcement budget for deportations. THAT is what changes the number from 1.5 million to 3.0 million. Not "magic".
"Again a nice attempted dodge on the "legitamcy" issue. I was not addressing the legitamacy of the aliens, but rather the legitamcy of the premise that you can deport 11 million. Still haven't seen you address that on a practical basis."
Since we're talking about an already legitimate process that deports 1.5 million a year, why should there be a question about the legitimacy of deporting 11 million???
"I question whether you can control the borders without having control of the illegal population already within the country. If there is a community of illegals for them to enter, the motivated ones will find a way to get in and join it. I am a strong proponent of controlling the borders, but you cannot control the borders without gaining control of the illegal community within the borders. You can't do that if deportation is the primary solution."
It would seem to me that deporting them DOES "get control of the illegal community within the borders.
It's still magic because in the real world doubling a budget does not double output, it is called the law of diminishing returns. Add to that, if the program is effective, resistance, both legal challenges and otherwise will increase eating up even more of your budget. Doubling the budget will likely be required just to maintain the output of 1.5 million.
Since we're talking about an already legitimate process that deports 1.5 million a year, why should there be a question about the legitimacy of deporting 11 million???
Let's simplify so it isn't so confusing for you. "You can effectively deport 11 million illegal aliens. TRUE or FALSE?"
It would seem to me that deporting them DOES "get control of the illegal community within the borders.
You have a population of 11 million illegals. Over the course of the year you deport 1.5 million. Over the course of that 365 days you have 9.5 million illegals within the country who were functional plus any new additions that make it in. Deportation does not control that community because for that 9.5 million deportation did not affect them. If the best you can do is say "one out of every 8 of you who try will not be successful," you will continue to have the 8 try because the risk reward equation favors the illegal.
Your rapid fire responses are stuck on level 1 logic and although easily debunked take up too much time. Stop and think it through. Try to get to level 4 or 5 logic where the elements of the solution, prevention, enforcement, assimilation and control work together. A solution is possible. It just won't involve the concept of deporting 11 million illegal aliens. That is a flawed concept and any solution based on it will ultimately be flawed also.